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Harvey the GSPUser is Offline
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10/24/2012 6:35 AM  

Hello

We have an 11 - 12 week old puppy and wonder if we are walking him too much.

He has a quick 10 min around the block for a pee pee when we wake up.

40 min off lead at 10ish (about 2 miles)

40 min off lead at 2ish (about 2 miles)

30 mins up the park at 6pm playing ball and training etc.

10 min pee pee around block at 8pm before bed.

The thing is, he seems to need this amount of walking or he is chewing the house up.

I was going to start taking him running with me this weekend but I read on here I should wait until 18 months before that.

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10/24/2012 7:16 AM  
If you haven't already, start age appropriate obedience.


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10/24/2012 7:19 AM  
this is our first puppy so I'm not quite sure what that is.

We do lead training when he is on it.
He now sits on command, we have started trying to get him to come to us when called now.

I am getting worried about his joints, we didn't know abouth this, are we walking him too much?
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10/24/2012 7:42 AM  

No on-leash running until at least 12 months. You want to give the puppy sometime to grow into his bones. Off leash is fine since he controls the pace.

These guys will take as much exercise as you can throw at them; the more you exercise them the more they expect. I agree with Pixie Bee that it's time to work on obedience. Your local library should have some books, or maybe others here can make suggestions. Brain work wears them out just as well, if not better, as exercise.  (This is something I wish I had spent more time on with Bo when he was a puppy, but my father in law was dying and we just did the best we could with him.)

Welcome to the forum, and congrats on your new little friend.:)


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10/24/2012 7:46 AM  
As long as you are not forcing activity he should be OK.

My suggestion is to get a program and follow it.
There are some very good puppy training programs out there -
you can preview some on youtube - I like Hillman,Lardy,Graham
basic obedience is basic obedience - doesn't matter if the end result is for hunt testing or family pet - a quality,balanced program is the goal.


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10/24/2012 7:51 AM  

Library is a bit out, we live in France and not quite up to speed on the language yet!

We did buy some puppy training books off Amazon though.

I think maybe rather than walking him in the woods we'll just stick to the park for a bit then. Thats where we play fetch and try and get him to stay/come etc. And he can just stop whenever he wants.

Thanks for the help. He is gorgeous. If we take him out the yard at about 11.30 he seems to go through until the morning now.

We have to sometimes shut the door on him to stop him from going upstairs which he doesn't like very much. But we have a cat and they don't quite on at the moment. So we need to work on separation, but he is ok at night now.

He's great with the children, although he did nip at our eldest when he was excited the other day, but she does stick her face in front of his, I think she has learnt a lesson.

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10/24/2012 8:05 AM  
Has he had all of his parvo shots? I wouldn't take him to the park unless your vet specifically says you can. I know I wasn't allowed to take Rowdy to high dog traffic areas until around 16 weeks.

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Harvey the GSPUser is Offline
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10/24/2012 8:24 AM  

yes he's had all his shots and the vet said it was ok to take him out now.

When I say park....

We live in rural France, so the park is an old field where they used to play football. We are probably the only people that visit it.

Most of the people with dogs here take them hunting all day or just let them roam the streets. The French don't really do dog walking.

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10/24/2012 8:27 AM  
He's great with the children, although he did nip at our eldest when he was excited the other day, but she does stick her face in front of his, I think she has learnt a lesson.


IMO, this is the wrong attitude, possibly teaching the dog he has dominance over younger people.
While he is a puppy and puppies will nip/bite and act out, I think your daughter should be able to do most anything to him and he should be taught to not dominate.
Humans teach dogs manners, not the other way around.



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Harvey the GSPUser is Offline
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10/24/2012 9:04 AM  

Yes quite. He knows when he's being naughty. And we do all the things the book tells us too.

He tends to jump up when he first see's you and at strangers, and sometimes when he does this he has a little nibble. We turn our back on him and give him his chew when he does this. It is becoming more and more infrequent.

But also, I don't want my daughter to get into the habit of putting her face near dogs faces.

So he got reprimanded, and she learnt a lesson. His temperament is generally very good. He lets them both do whatever they want to him.

 

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10/24/2012 1:11 PM  
Another good place to find dog specific training books is dogwise.com. I use a combination of different training techniques I have used over the years and adopted them to shorthairs. As for the nipping and jumping the two things I have found to work the best with shorthairs are:
1) for jumping grab their front paws and gently squeeze until they pull back. It works fast and is pretty easy. The problem I had with the back turning is some of mine thought that was a game and just jumped on my back.
2) for nipping I grab their lower jaw and press down on the tongue with my thumb. Nothing hard, just enough so they pull back. As soon as they pull back, release.

Both these methods have worked well on my shorthairs and because our response is something the dog does not like their behavior stops pretty fast. All that said, if what you are doing is working then continue. Just wanted to give you some other options if you still have problems.

As for training a new puppy, I like the book by the Monks of New Skeet. Some of there methods are a little old fashion, but they work well. The title is "The Art of Raising a Puppy." It is a good all round book. There are others out their too that are just as good, so I always recommend to buy several and read them all and pick and choose the exercises you like and try them out.

As for shorthairs, they are typically softer dogs and you get allot of good results with positive reinforcement, but once in a while a little negative reinforcement goes a long way.

For chewing antlers work well, but since he is younger he is probably teething and getting ready to loose his puppy teeth. That is the only time I really like the rawhide chews. They seem to satisfy the puppies and help get those puppy teeth out, and the puppies have a hard time chewing them up. Once he gets his adult teeth though the antlers are wonderful.

Congratulations on your new puppy. Enjoy him now as they grow up so fast. Would love to see more pictures of your little guy.

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10/24/2012 1:52 PM  
Posted By Harvey the GSP on 10/24/2012 8:24 AM

yes he's had all his shots and the vet said it was ok to take him out now.

When I say park....

We live in rural France, so the park is an old field where they used to play football. We are probably the only people that visit it.

Most of the people with dogs here take them hunting all day or just let them roam the streets. The French don't really do dog walking.

 

Ahh, good to know yeah I just heard park and assumed it was a busy park.  Your dog looks like a cute one.  Congrats on the new addition.

 


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Harvey the GSPUser is Offline
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10/25/2012 1:07 AM  
Thanks for all the replies.

We have a few books but I'll look into those thanks Texas Belle. I'll also give grabbing the paws a go too.
I need to get an account somewhere to load photo's. When I get a moment I'll give it a go.
Am I the only non USA member? I'm English living in France. I've only been to USA once, to St Paul in Minneapolis (spelling) my friend now lives in Pheonix, I keep meaning to visit.
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10/25/2012 8:18 AM  
No you are not the only non-USA member. We have members from all over, but I do think you are the only one in France.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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10/29/2012 3:22 PM  
Harvey reminds me of Hanna as a pup. My Vet recommended using a base ball field or tennis court for an enclosed area to work on obedience till they are 4 months old and had all thier shots. I Got hanna in the winter so She didn't get alot of walking in as I recall . I did play with her in a fenced in side yard .
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