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09/09/2012 7:08 PM  

I just read numerous articles about "bloat" in GSPs.  According to the warning signs in one article, my dog is a classic candidate for it.  Of course, every article has conflicting things you can't and can't do.  One article ABSOLUTELY recommends NOT using an elevated dish to feed or water your dog.  The GSP guide book I'm reading says an elevated dish in mandatory.  That's about as conflicting as it gets.  I've copied and posted a list from one source that got me the most nervous.  My dog is high-energy (as most are) and loves to run, twist, jump and play in every way possible.  This seems to conflict with what she should be doing.   Here is a list from one article.

Causes

According to the links below, it is thought that the following may be the primary contributors to bloat.  To calculate a dog's lifetime risk of bloat according to Purdue University's School of Veterinary Medicine, click here.

bullet Stress
bullet Dog shows, mating, whelping, boarding, change in routine, new dog in household, etc.
Although purely anecdotal, we've heard of too many cases where a dog bloated after another dog (particularly a 3rd dog) was brought into the household; perhaps due to stress regarding pack order.  
bullet Activities that result in gulping air
bullet Eating habits, especially...
bullet Elevated food bowls
bullet Rapid eating
bullet Eating dry foods that contain citric acid as a preservative (the risk is even worse if the owner moistens the food)
bullet Eating dry foods that contain fat among the first four ingredients
bullet Insufficient pancreatic enzymes, such as Trypsin (a pancreatic enzyme present in meat)
Dogs with untreated Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency (EPI) and/or Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO) generally produce more gas and thus are at greater risk
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bullet Dilution of gastric juices necessary for complete digestion by drinking too much water before or after eating
bullet Eating gas-producing foods (especially soybean products, brewer's yeast, and alfalfa) 
bullet Drinking too much water too quickly (can cause gulping of air)
bullet Exercise before and especially after eating
bullet Heredity
bullet Especially having a first-degree relative who has bloated
bullet Dogs who have untreated Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency (EPI) are considered more prone to bloat  New
Gas is associated with incomplete digestion 
 
bullet Build & Physical Characteristics
bullet Having a deep and narrow chest compared to other dogs of the same breed
bullet Older dogs
bullet Big dogs
bullet Males
bullet Being underweight
bullet Disposition
bullet Fearful or anxious temperament
bullet Prone to stress
bullet History of aggression toward other dogs or people

 Here is the link to the entire article. 

http://www.globalspan.net/bloat.htm#Prevention

Can anyone chime in on this and ease my concerns. This article claims that half of the things my dog does is going to cause her to bloat and die. Ughhh!

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09/09/2012 7:40 PM  
I can't really put your mind at ease, to me the most important things are not feeding when stressed, excited, just before or after exercise. The elevated feeder argument has gone on for years.
Bugsy is a 'poster child' for bloat. He's huge, with a deep chest, prone to anxiety/ excitement and eats/drinks fast, etc.
I have educated myself to the risks and signs and do my best.

It's Bugsy's world...
http://dailyzoomie.blogspot.com/
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09/09/2012 7:52 PM  

When I first was informed about bloat, it left me concerned as well. We excersise them at least an hour before or after feeding and have not had any issues so far. We do not elevate dog dishes. We do two small meals a day.

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09/10/2012 12:01 AM  
As you have seen by your research for every one argument one way you can find another for just the opposite. The bottom line is no one knows for sure what causes bloat. So because of that I take what I think are reasonable precautions and do not feed either an hour before or after exercise. I also feed two smaller meals a day. Other than that, I do not worry too much about bloat. I have learned over years of dog ownership you have to let the live their life and have fun. And with shorthairs you just have to expect the injuries and dings because they are athletic and energetic dogs.

As for feeding, I have fed dogs on both elevated and bowls on the floor in the past, but now I feed elevated and not because of bloat, but because it is easier for larger dogs to eat elevated when they get older.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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09/10/2012 3:07 PM  
Hijacking with a related question :)

After Bell runs through the woods for about 40 minutes, we make the slow paced walk back to our house (about 10 minutes). Since there is an apple tree at the entrance/exit of the woods, I always pick up one of the small apples (a little bigger than a golf ball). Once we get back to the house, I let her have it as her treat for being so good on her outing. It's not the same as feeding a whole meal, but thinking of it now...maybe I shouldn't be doing this.
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09/10/2012 5:07 PM  
It probably wom't hurt her, but don't give her the seeds as they are not good for dogs to eat.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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