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On Jun 12, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Tracy Novoa wrote: Our standard reads: "The teeth are strong and healthy. The molars intermesh properly. The bite is a true scissors bite. A perfect level bite is not desirable and must be penalized. Extreme overshot or undershot disqualifies." > > Is this right or wrong of judges to "judge to their own standard"? According to the AKC Rules, Policies and Guidelines for Conformation Dog Show Judges and the Judging Operations Judging Liaison "no, the judge should judge by the standard". Also as it pertains to the comment, "he would have been the breed winner had it not been for the missing teeth." AKC policy states, "Avoid making inappropriate comments to exhibitors in or out of the ring." On p. 10 of the AKC Rulebook, Rules and Breed Standards it is the responsibility of the judge to understand and judge according to AKC Rules, Policies, Guidelines and current Standards in effect on the day of their judging assignment. If the decision depends on exact wording, it states not to hesitate to refer to the Rules, Guidelines or breed Standard or discuss the matter with the AKC Executive Field Representative. It also states one can discuss Rule issues with the Superintendent. Based on his comments after the fact his decision was not made according to "exact wording" in the GSP breed standard. Also while under judgement GSPs should not be expected to have a full dentition exam as done with some of the working breeds. Patte Titus CheckSix Shorthairs Unsubscribing: To unsubscribe from the list, send an email message in PLAIN TEXT to gsp-l-request@web.whc.net with message text of "unsubscribe gsp-l you@email.add" (replace the email address with yours, don't include the quotes and note it is a lower case L after the dash in gsp-l).
Judges have told me on more than one occasion that the standard does not specify two eyes or four legs. That does not mean they could not consider a lack of one in their decision. I never like that justification, but others agree. Some judges will also make assumptions about dentition, and feel they are doing no wrong. Nothing much we can do about it except not show them dogs with missing teeth or less than desirable bites.
I agree that judges sometimes do more harm than good with their comments when they say something they meant to be positive to placate you and it comes out all wrong. Nothing we can do about that either