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07/03/2012 9:14 AM  

training for navhda test all parts of the training are down pat except for field work she wants to run wild and hunt on her owen need her to hunt closer and stay out in front of me and hunt any ideas . she is four years old.

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07/03/2012 9:40 AM  
Engrained habits can be difficult to break.

Some ideas:
plant birds close to the together ca 100 feet apart, plant the first bird ca 50 feet into the field,train her to turn on voice and whistle, train her to check in - you can do this by firing a shot,will she come in to check it out?, put birds in launchers and pop them to get her to stop to wild flush,have birds in you vest to throw out for stop to flush

Have you specifically been told her search is not good enough to recieve a 4?
How steady is she?
A dog that's a bit rangy but holds thru fall can still get a 4 -a dog that is broke is not hunting for themselves - boldness and independence are good traits
I don't expect a dog to hunt close if there are no birds close- I expect a dog to go out and find birds - if she is passing birds there may be a problem worse than self hunting
If your running after NA and in the same field there will be so many birds out there already she may start pointing within the first few minutes.


"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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07/03/2012 10:45 AM  

Just reading through your previous posts. How hard do you work obedience? To Pixie Bees point - Turning on voice, and Whistle train can go a long way. Work it in training regularly (3 - 4 times a week), and the dog will begin to hunt WITH you (if it isn't already). Ranging, in and of itself, is not a bad thing. Dog needs to hunt at a range which is comfortable for you too. Ranging, with a failure to hold-point means lost birds. That's no fun for anyone.

I start with obedience (almost every day). When the dog can Whoa, and Come on command (either voice, or whistle), I start working Quartering Drills. I start in a field with almost no cover (so I can see the dog clearly), and work the field in a zig-zag into the wind. I can then progress to down-wind work, less zig-zag, etc. I live where birds are scarce, so when I am able, I get out to the club and plant birds (as Pixie also suggests). By this point, the dog already understands (Through daily work) how to work a field WITH me (quartering). "Running" into birds is just a natural progression of the training, and a reward for the dog.

If I haven't worked obedience in the field with Sadie for a while, she will get pretty rangy. I think some of it is pent-up energy. Having trained obedience with the whistle helps. I let her run, but if she gets out too far, I whistle her back. Usually within 15 - 20 minutes she has adjusted her range to where I like her.

Hope that helps, keep us posted!


It is watching the dogs work that I thoroughly enjoy, and love. I could get by with just watching them work - if it weren't for all the training, and the joy they exhibit when they pick-up, and deilver to hand a bird that they pointed, and you shot. - Todd
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