On June 30th Gracie was nearing the end of her cycle, I let her in the house going to put her in her crate, she runs in the other room and in 3 maybe 5 seconds Buddy had tied up with her.  They were tied for like 20 minutes, a day and a half later she was out of heat, Buddy left her alone and life was back to normal.  Was at the vet last Sat he couldn't tell, it is now July 21st, any recommendations on how to tell?  I am less than thrilled that this happend, down right upset.  The plan was for this to possibly happen in 2013 or 14 after appropriate testing.

Here's a link to the pedigrees if she is pregnant.

http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=2435

Ultrasound can be done at 28 days past the breeding, so that's what I would do.

I new this would happen, Hey Trey you seem like one of those people out there that likes to state the obvious in or after a situation, make comments that make you feel better about yourself and want to appear perfect to others.  I posted this for advice, I'll take the good advice, expected a lecture, but I will voice back.  

Personally, I would want to know to start getting ready. Preparing the puppy box, all the supplies, preparing for a delivery, etc all takes time and money that I wouldn't want to spend if I didn't have to. Now that said, an ultrasound costs money too...

She'll begin to show weeks before she is due. Plenty of time to prepare.

Out of curisoity -
how do you know they were tied for 20 minutes?
 

oops,my bad. I didn't read the entire post.

You did plan on breeding them in the future.

What have you done as far as testing for health,performance,temperment and conformation?

You have lost credibility with this statement.

 

How about posting every single post of mine? And who would "anyone" be? Every single person on this board?

My posts in this thread are in support of the OP,trying to ease her mind that they may not have been tied for as long as she thinks, making the possibility an oops litter less anxiety causing.

Mr.Shaffer can post links to the threads where I have belittled the GSP.
If not, then his post was an attack on me for his own personal reasons,served no purpose to the thread,an attempt to cause contention and if he honestly and gentlemenly wanted to know the answers to his questios he should have sent it via PM.

JMS gunner,
if you are supporting Mr. Shaffer's attack on me, you bring yourself to a lower level then I believe you would like to be known for.

I will admitt I am at times a straight forward poster - to the point. This may be politically incorrect for some - I'm not responsible for how others percieve my posts,the written word is difficult to decipher on a forum and I will not pretend to agree with those who I disagree with.
As I may have angered some, some may have angered me. This is a forum and debate should be encouraged. If rose colored glasses need to be norm then the forum will be useless.
I do not agree with the linch mob mentality and this seems to be headed that way.


But,
Mr.Shaffer made a claim and I'd like proof.
This is not about insensitivity, it is about false slanderous statements.







 

I absolutely wish the best to the OP, I don't believe that was ever in question.

Mr.Shaffer,

you have stated that I went from belittling to demeaning the GSP.
Not tue.I have never done either.
I have questioned why others bash the DK and why the GSP has been made into a specialist by using field trials as a means to evaluate the GSP.
The GSP comes from the DK - originally bred for versatility.
I will post links to the threads you say prove you are just in you attack on me.

A differring of opinion on how a breed should be evaluated is not demeaning nor belittling that breed.
On the other side - the readers will see how the DK is put in a position of defense from the GSP enthusiats. DK enthusiasts are continually put off and demeaned for their decision of versatility and wanting to continue this in the GSP.

I do not think their is one field trialer in America who likes me - and that's being nice!
Field trials are loosing participants, loosing sales every day to buyers who are choosing the more versatile route in their hunting. It hurts when the wallet and  a dieing sport loved so dearly slowly diminishes. This is not from my doing but yet I am a strong proponent of versatility and field trailers see me as a thorn in their side. The American hunter is realizing that the lies they have been told by the field trialer are just that lies. The American hunter does enjoy rabbit hunting,pond jumping and yes, maybe even a blood track- these tasks require a verdatiel dog to hunt under the gun,track with nose down - yes versatile,unlike the field trial bred GSP.

Mr Shaffer,
you can't get yourself into a quoting war because the proof you need does not exist. You hit hard and now are playing the humbl card. Some may buy into your game of wanting to rid me from this board, to keep the versatilty card silent.
I leave the reader to judge for themselves if I have ever belittled or demeaned the GSP.

Thank you readers,
Francine M.