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zodiakgsps
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pixie bee
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| 05/06/2011 4:08 AM |
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Very nice.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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pixie bee
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| 05/06/2011 4:43 AM |
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After thinking about it -
have you begun forcing on sends?
She is doing a nice fine lining drill.
You can find many more drills with google and on youtube.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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zodiakgsps
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| 05/06/2011 5:14 PM |
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Thanks Francine!
No forcing, she doesn't require it. I don't FF either, never have. We do several drills from ladder to baseball, mostly it is our summer work when it is to hot to run, gives them some physical (especially water drills) exercise, mental stimulation and control work for me. She already has her RDX title, just refining her some for UT down the road.
Nitro is doing 100 yd casts already & Jess and Jet do close to Taras distance. I do believe natural retrieve to be genetic & won't breed a dog that doesn't show the high level of natural retrieve the ones I have kept do. (and I don't know how to FF.....handicaps me in training!!) |
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pixie bee
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| 05/07/2011 7:24 AM |
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When you say no forcing, do you mean no ear pinch or toe hitch?
Do you mean you never worked on proper hold and delivery?
What do you use as a correction when the dog drops or mouths?
Do you require your dogs to sit and deliver?
Whatever you do, you have good results so far.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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zodiakgsps
NW PA
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| 05/07/2011 11:22 AM |
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Thanks Francine
No sit on deliver, no reason, just never taught it. No, no ear pinch or toe hitch(would never use a toe hitch), have only taught hold and I use treats, drop article, no treat, deliver to hand, treat & praise. I teach here as basic obedience, for delivering to hand from a distance, they just always have??
My old dog Mac used to drop midway sometimes, he would have needed work, the rest always did it. Not sure how I would handle one that didnt other than starting up close & working for more distance. If they do drop prior to me taking an article, I simply say "UH!" and put back in mouth, I will tap the chin for rolling/mouthing. |
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pixie bee
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| 05/11/2011 9:05 AM |
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Nice results with minimal force. Can't argue with results!
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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jmtigers
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| 05/31/2011 8:11 AM |
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My 1.5 yr old has always been a pretty good retriever and i have not FF etc...
issues i have: 1) He wants to drop at my feet... i'll try the treat method you mentioned and 2) depending on his energy level when he returns he wants to circle and play with the dummy. Sometimes he will run several circles around me.. very frustrating. Any advice? |
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pixie bee
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| 05/31/2011 5:00 PM |
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Most GSPs are natural retrievers
1) dropping at your feet
teach a solid hold - using treats to teach this may work
2)circling/playing with dummy
teach a solid recall and a solid sit
teach him exactly what you require from him and remove confusion
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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Texas Belle
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| 05/31/2011 7:39 PM |
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| What do you do when he drops the dummy at your feet? What do you do when he runs around you in a circle? You may actually be rewarding his behavior. If he drops it, I would pick it up and put it back in his mouth and tell him hold. Then praise and take it. If he is running around I would not look at him, not say a word to him, and stay put. Totally ignore the behavior. Let him make up his mind to bring it to you. If he doesn't just leave him and go back in the house, game over. I use a chair and a book to help correct both problems you described. I take the toy, the chair and the book out in the yard. I sit down and throw the dummy. If he brings it back to me, I throw it again. If he drops it, I say "oops, I can't reach that" and wait. If he brings it, throw it again. If not, I pick up the book and start reading (helps you ignore him if you read). When he brings it to you, you can throw it again. Same thing if he runs around. If after a while (I usually give them 5 minutes at first) he hasn't brought the toy, then pick up the chair and book and go inside, game over. You will be surprised at how fast they learn to keep the game going they have to play by your rules. |
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jmtigers
Louisiana
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| 06/02/2011 10:16 AM |
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| Thanks! |
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zodiakgsps
NW PA
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| 07/31/2011 6:27 PM |
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| jmtigers (sorry, just saw this) reinforce your here command, I teach heel command - to come to my side upon recall. If this is taught solidly it should help your issue. Also, start the drill in a boring place with little distraction & then move up to distractions. I use lots of reward/praise. |
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