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TessaGAUser is Offline
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01/24/2011 12:47 PM  

Does a point override a recall or vice versa?

We lost sight of our dogs on Saturday, couldn't hear Tessa's bell either which means she's either on point or far away. We called them back but neither appeared. Shane is old and a little deaf that's his excuse but he doesn't wander far. Tessa is young and bold and very fast, but she does have a very good recall, especially to the whistle. So we whistled and called to no avail. Started walking and as we made it up the hill saw Tessa on point and Shane honoring.

Am I right in assuming they did the right thing by remaining on point? What if there is a need for an immediate recall? We go find the dog instead of trying to call it back?


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01/24/2011 1:20 PM  
The dogs did the right thing.
They ignored you to do what they were bred to do, which is hold game until the hunter arrives.They prioritzed and you came last. they also knew
What were they pointing?


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01/24/2011 1:36 PM  
Quail.

So next time it happens I stop hollering instead I go in search of my dog I guess. My friend said they are probably on point and I thought no way not my Tessa, not this long yet (it had been about 5 minutes without me in sight) and I thought she'd break a point for a recall but obviously I was wrong.

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01/24/2011 4:17 PM  
I guess I may be different, but I want a recall that even breaks a dog off a bird. You just have to be careful when you use it. So, if I think the dog is on point I will go after it and not recall it to me. My dogs always come when I call them and I can recall them off of birds or game. My rational is when hiking or hunting if the dog get hurt and I call and he does not come I know there is an issue. Either he is lost and doesn't know how to get back to me or he is hurt. I had the first one happen when hiking and I was missing Halo and Ringo. Because I knew they would come when called I knew there was a problem. I didn't think they were both hurt, and I figured they would stay together, so the only option left was they couldn't get back to me. They had followed a creek bed in a valley when I had turned off and climbed to the top of the bluff. So, I walked back along the bluff and they followed my voice so when I got back to the intersection they were their and very happy to see me.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

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01/24/2011 4:36 PM  

One thing that really helps is a beeper caller that activates when your dog goes on point. I use one every time I go out because most of the time our dogs hunt out of our sight. It sure saves a lot of time trying to locate your dog when they're on point. It also helps keep track of your dogs movements so you can make sure they're hunting in the direction you want. As for your question on whether a recall overrides a point or not I prefer my dog to stay on point.  When I hunt with other people and their dogs I don't want my dogs to break point when they whistle their dogs back.  If you field trial you might be paired with a person who constantly whistles (very annoying) and if your dog doesn't stay on point when that person whistles a recall command you'll lose all those points towards your score to include handling points.

 

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01/24/2011 4:57 PM  
Which is why I don't use a whistle.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

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