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Smylinacha User is Offline

Connecticut

MH
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01/09/2011 3:51 PM
Hi! Never studded a dog before so I am totally new at this..... Wondering about studding Windsor so I can have one of his pups? Thinking about getting another dog but it would be nice to have one of his offspring. He's got his papers and he had all those tests that were mentioned in this forum and checked out fine. He will be a hunting dog but hasn't done any field trials or anything like that - the previous owners never worked with him in that way. He'll be good I think though because he points well, he knows to fetch and drop it and leave it, he is gentle with what he carries in his mouth (he is now bringing my motherinlaw the paper every day). We practice this with his "firehose" toy. Pretty cool too when we play with that toy (his favorite) I hide it in places, like under the nightstand, behind doors, behind furniture in completely different rooms than the one he is in and he'll stay until I tell him to go get it and he'll bring it back to me and he's gentle. Only time he's rough is when we play rope and do tug of war. So how do I starting looking into this?

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MH
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01/09/2011 4:58 PM
There are allot of very nice sires and dams out their and wonderful litters being born everyday. You will be competing litter wise with puppies whose parents are finished champions in the field and show rings, and have a multitude of other titles as well. Unless you are entering into this to develop your line and improve on it, I would strongly encourage you to buy a puppy from another breeder. It is not cheap and allot of work to have a litter of puppies and to do it right. If, however, you want to start a breeding program, then the first thing you need to do aside from the health clearances is insure your boy, Windsor, is conformationally correct, has a good temperament, can hunt, etc by competing with him in the breed ring and the field too. Then you have to find a nice female that complements Windsor. You also need to think about line breeding vs an outcross. Define what you are trying to accomplish with the breeding. Since you don't own a female, you would have to then find the right female for your program and start discussions with the owner. I will warn you that a person who is looking to breed a nice bitch has a multitude of outstanding males to choose from so be prepared, your boy will have to compete with those other males. It took me two years to decide to breed my girl, Halo, and also to decide which male to breed her too. If all you want from the breeding is another dog, then I would advise you to not breed, but find a litter either already on the ground or in the planning and buy a puppy. It is much easier. If you do go forward with a breeding you have to be prepared for the worst because you will want to be a responsible breeder. I have a friend who has been breeding Rhodesian Ridgebacks for years and has some of the best Ridgebacks in the US. Her last litter she had I think 11 puppies. At about 5 weeks they came down with Parvo. They still do not know how they contracted the disease as she knows what she is doing and is very careful, most likely it was brought into the home on someones shoes, but they will never know for sure. In any case, it cost her literally about $15,000 dollars to attempt to save that litter. Aside from the money she was up around the clock caring for the sick puppies that did not have to go to the puppy ICU. At the end of about a 2 week period she had saved 5 puppies. No matter how you price your puppies and even if you do not have a disaster, you never recoup the cost as there are allot of expenses just for a normal delivery. So ask yourself, are you willing to make that kind of commitment if the worst does happen? Can you afford to have the puppies even if the delivery is normal? The cost of the pretests, the ultrsounds and xrays, the vet visits, the puppy vet visits and shots, tail docking and dews, all the food, the whelping box and all the delivery supplies can get pricey. It is not cheap in a normal situation, and if something happens it can get really expensive. Also, do you have the time to invest in socializing the puppies? Are you willing to sell your puppies on a contract that says you will take the puppy back at anytime if the new owner cannot keep the dog? All of these things you should consider very carefully. Good luck in working through this. It is a hard and serious decision and should not be made lightly.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna) Yellow Rose GSPs "A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato

Smylinacha User is Offline

Connecticut

MH
Posts:1208

01/09/2011 5:51 PM
Thanks so much for the reply! Boy do I have A LOT to learn! I figured since he has good tempermant and smarts I could find a mate for him. Wasn't looking to make a dime - just wanted another dog and thought it would be neat to have it related to him. Maybe finding a breeder and getting another dog that way is the best route for us. I'll still research it all out though. I've got all the info on his papers - who his mom an dad is and it's all new to me so I'll take serious consideration.

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Posts:470

01/09/2011 6:20 PM
It is great that you want another pup like your Windsor, but just because you breed him does not mean you will get a pup just like him. In addition that should never be the only reason you breed. Good breeders put alot of work into which dogs they breed as well as alot of work into the socialization they do with them before they ever go to their forever homes. There are alot of great GSP litters out there. Find one that is close to you and you can really become involved with them. Lucky for me I was able to go see the entire litter of my current puppy a few weeks before she came home. It was a great experience to see them all interacting. It was perfect and I could not be more pleased with my puppy. I have two great GSPs and left all the work up to some really good breeders.

pixie bee

MH
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01/09/2011 7:16 PM
You would need to start off by coming up with a way to market him. His strong points and weaknesses. An evaluation on conformation,ability,health and temperment from more than one unbiased knowledgable,qualified individual who can be used as references. You don't own him for an amount of time where accurate judgements can be made by you. Begin a training program and learn about him. Francine

"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle

Smylinacha User is Offline

Connecticut

MH
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01/13/2011 8:32 PM
Thanks for all the comments - so glad I found this place as I have lots to learn! It's a great experience!

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