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01/11/2008 3:51 PM  

I decided to start a new subject rather than add my comment to the "puppy aggression". My GSPs and I are very serious agility competitors. Terra and I also run flyball. One of the rewards and main motivators to build drive especially in flyball is a tug of some sort. My dogs find this very motivating! Terra would rather interact with me and a toy than food. I have never had problems with aggression. When the tug game is over, I end it. The dogs know they must work again for another play session. Terra has no trouble retrieving a bird to hand and is very soft mouthed.

My question is: Terra was only introduced to tug games after she had been trained for basic field stuff. I'm not sure whether this made a difference or not. I will be keeping a puppy from her next and final litter and plan to do everything (field, agility, obedience, show, flyball) with it as well. Should I delay the tug games again or start them right away?

 

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01/11/2008 8:43 PM  

I don't do field work with my GSPs, but have discovered that tug games are a great reward/motivater.  I learned about this with flyball, and I too end the game and they have to work for another round of tug.  I have since transferred this reward to obedience with my oldest who is really smart and gets easily bored.  We still do retrieve work with both dogs and they are still soft mouthed.  They also never have shown an agressive bone in them even after the tugging.  I can't believe that as long as you are in control and end the game there would be any problem, but again I don't actually hunt with my girls.  I will be interested to hear from others on this subject.

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01/11/2008 9:01 PM  
The difference I see in this is that you as the owner initiat the tug reward and you end it. In the field you don't really initiat it so I would be concerned that the pup may think to try and start the tug game with you and see if you play back? Just a thought....

I am sure just like anything though as long as it is tought correctly there won't be a problem.

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01/12/2008 7:34 AM  
Gail,

I agree with Beth and Bev. We often play tug with Bo, and he isn't an agressive pup. Definitely, make sure you initiate the game. When we are playing toss with Bo and he starts wanting to play tug, we ignore him until he gives the object to us nicely (or drops it). This is especially true outside in the snow ... once he gets tired of chasing his frisbee, he will start bumping our hand with it in an attempt to play tug and slow down the game. It's normally an indication to us to start wrapping up play time and go in for a nap :)

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