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Toni England
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| 04/04/2010 12:31 PM |
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Ok, so yet again, I am worried about Hogan. 
In my post before, I mentioned about him having one poop (solid) then a looser one. Gradually over the last few days I have noticed this change. Today he has had 4 poops - all looser than before. Bit graphic - but now they are all really, really loose, diarrhoea.
As far as I am aware he hasn't got "into" anything, and no routine changes, apart from the fact that his appetite has increased and so he has been eating MORE of the same feed. Actually, while I think about it, yesterday he had a bowl of a different flavour food (but same make) - would this affect anything? It was turkey and rice as opposed to duck and rice.
Lastly, he is "fine" in himself. I took him for a walk this morning and he ran around like a lunatic. Although, he has started "snapping" at me and Toni. I don't quite know what to do.
It started this afternoon. I cleaned his ears, and he was unusually aggressive about it - snarling and snapping - when he normally only is a little aggresive - this is a problem that built up from the ear infections and having to treat him twice a day. I didn't think much of it, just wondered why his reaction was exacurbated today.
Then, about half an hour later, I was telling him off for stealing a pair of socks, and he snapped at me. He later snapped at Toni.
Any ideas would be appreciated.

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Toni England
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| 04/04/2010 12:57 PM |
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*its shelley Just had a thought.... Hogan has had a lot of upheaval lately - we have moved bedrooms, so Hogans crate has now moved upstairs into a new room (also could this mean he is re-evaluating his position in the pack? He also comes into our bed for cuddles). Then, it has been bank holiday, so we have both been off work and he came everywhere with us. (So change in routine?). Also - the other morning, he was whining in his crate (which isn't normal but I presumed it was because he wanted to be in bed with us instead of in the crate) and he whined so much that he actually made himself sick. Could the poops be due to change of routine/stress??? |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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zodiakgsps NW PA
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| 04/04/2010 1:52 PM |
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Chronic loose stool is often a sign of coccidia or giardia which is often made worse by stressors. (teething is one) Cocci & giardia often do not show up in a fecal sample, have him treated & see if there is a difference. As to the snapping behaviour, not sure what to say there, may be his not feeling well, but I have never had one snap for any reasons like that. (wound treatment, illness, medicating) I agree with Bev to start working him on staying down & making him give you toys etc, treat it as dominance. Do you have a good, reliable obedience instructor by you to help you out?? |
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Toni England
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| 04/04/2010 1:57 PM |
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Thanks for that. What is the treatment for coccidia/giardia? I will google them, will be a vet visit I expect? I have a trainer that I can ask advice from - although out at training he is perfectly well behaved and shows no dominant behaviour (if this is what this is). I really have a "thing" about aggressive dogs - I looked after a puppy prior to having Hogan who was an English Bullmastiff who had a BIG aggression/dominance problem - and I think it has made me slightly over sensitive to it. |
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MelB
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| 04/04/2010 2:50 PM |
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I think they all go through a "testing" phase where they try to see what they can and can't get away with. When Xara was 8 weeks she started to snap if you reached for her food bowl, she got a sharp rap on her nose and a firm NO BITE! She didnt' do it again. Yesterday she got ahold of my pot holders and wanted to take them in her crate, I walked over to get them from her and she growled at me. She again got a firm rap on the tip of her nose and a DROP IT! Today when she got the dish towel, she let one soft growl out and I said NO! DROP IT! and she spit it out real fast. One thing that also works very well with Xara when she's having a "dominant moment" is for me to growl at her. She submits every single time to a stern sounding growl. However, you have to remember that Xara was not raised by a mommy dog, she was raised by humans so she accepts that growl as a correction from us, not sure if Hogan would have the same respect although I'd surely give it a go! I hope his bowel movements firm up, it has to be frustrating with him having this issue! Have you tried a 24 hr fast with him to let his tummy rest from having to digest anything and then gradually reintroducing his food again mixed with a bit of hamburger and rice? Might help too. |
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Splat Illinois (Northern)
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| 04/04/2010 2:52 PM |
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Blitz had coccidia when he was little and the vet gave us a medicine for it...though I can't remember what it was.... I know with kids teething can make loose stools, so I bet it is the same with dogs... |
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singltrak Las Cruces, NM
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| 04/04/2010 3:11 PM |
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For coccidia you need Albon, for giardia you need Flagyl. Both are prescription meds and Rx is done by body weight. Be prepared to take a stool sample by your vet in the morning. Diagnosis is done by microscopic slides. You may want to pick up some acidophilous caps to sprinkle onto his food too...get his gut back to normal. Any change in food can create a soft stool...even the basic food with a different flavor. Mine always get a looser stool with turkey than with lamb and rice. Not any clue why tho...it just happens. He's such a puppy tho that I really wouldn't fuss over it too much...they can get very creative to gain more attention and the snapping/snarling could also be an offshoot of that. While you are at the vet's have them check his ears to be sure there is no residual infection starting up again....may need a different medication if so. |
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mit Harleysville, PA
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| 04/04/2010 5:23 PM |
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Toni,
We went through the same thing with Webster!. When he was a puppy we took him for all kinds of tests and nothing ever showed up. It was the same thing, his first stool is normal then he proceeds to pooh two or three more times, each time getting a bit runnier. For a variety of reasons we ended up changing vets & I asked out current vet about the problem. He told me that Webster was basically forcing himself to eliminate faster than he really needs (if that makes any sense), thus his first stools are hard and the subsequent stools are loose. Once we found this out we quit worrying. Webster is 6 and is still poohing that way and is a healthy dog. I hope this helps |
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soonerfan237 Oklahoma
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| 04/05/2010 9:08 AM |
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Adenine's stool consistency was really variable when he was Hogan's age. He went through periods of diarrhea every once in a while. As he got older it started to go away. I wouldn't worry about it too much as long as its not just total liquid and as long he's acting happy. Although the snapping could be a result of him feeling sick. If you've got a regularly scheduled vet visit coming up soon, I would just wait until then to get it checked out. If not, I'd see if it gets worse in the next day or two and then get him checked out. Of course, I am definitely NOT a professional or expert in any way shape or form. I am just going off of my experiences where the occasional loose poop was normal in my puppy. Hope this helps! |
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soonerfan237 Oklahoma
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| 04/05/2010 9:23 AM |
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As for the snapping, every time he starts to get agressive I would calmly say "no" and then immediately bring him to his crate for a time out. You definitely don't want to show an emotional reaction or get upset. He may be trying to get a reaction out of you or get your attention. I have found that getting upset just tends to escalate things, which is very counterproductive. By remaining calm and stoic, you don't reward him and you keep him from going to the next level. Just keep it consistent and catch it early. If you can tell that he is thinking about snapping or is about to snap, go ahead and put him in time out right then and there. You can also try putting bitter apple spray on your hands as a taste deterrent.
You may also be rewarding his behavior without realizing it. When Adenine was young he used to jump into some bushes, which was against the rules. I would have to go chase him down and put him in time out. But his behavior kept getting worse. I eventually realized that he was enjoying the "game" of chase and I was just rewarding him for jumping in the bush. Instead I would either totally ignore him or give him a quick spray with the hose (which he disliked). After that, he stopped jumping in the bushes pretty much overnight. So I would look carefully at everything that goes on before and after the snapping, to see if he could possibly be getting rewarded unintentionally.
Disclaimer: I am not a professional or expert dog trainer!
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dieterthegsp Cape Breton, NS, Canada
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| 04/05/2010 11:32 AM |
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You definitely don't want to show an emotional reaction or get upset.
Exactly ..a lot of people think you have to get mad to show athority. Its just negative energy that the dog does not really respect. To quote the dog whisperer..be "calm and assertive"
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