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wine9555
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| 03/16/2010 9:00 PM |
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I have a 10 month old GSP that is an exceptional dog. I have owned bird dogs of various beeds for over 25 years. This dog is dramatically superior to any I have owned.
He is an exceptional athlete and does well both with upland birds and ducks, he loves to swim.
My brother wants a puppy if he sires one and I would like to get one later down the road.
What is the best way to locate a high quality female with similar markings and hunting drive |
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zodiakgsps
NW PA
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| 03/17/2010 3:44 AM |
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First off, how has this dog been proven in the field?? (won any FT's, has been NAVHDA NA or HT tested??) Been shown at all??
What all health clearances does he have?? At 10 mnths, he does not have OFA certification, no one I know will breed to, or consider breeding to, a dog that young that is unproven.
What is his breeding -pedigree?? Is he from proven parents/lineage closer than 3 generations back(parents/grandparents)?? Parents have all health cerfs??
I would highly suggest, if he is that good, you start testing him in some field venues & possibly show him if he is built well enough to get his name "out there". There are a lot of nice males out there that have been proven to take a female to, many FC, MH, VC, NAVHDA UT1 etc males, as well as several Duals. (Rugerheim, Walnut Hills, Odyssey kennels)
You need to know what "holes" or weaknesses your dog has (they all have them!!) so as not to breed on that, but breed to improve on it.
Get him into some events, maybe show him too and when he is 2 yrs old have him OFA'd (you can have heart/eyes done before 2), then consider looking for a good female, if he is doing well, someone will more than likely find you to breed to him. Good luck & have fun, he sounds like a nice pup!! |
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pixie bee
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| 03/17/2010 4:45 AM |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 03/17/2010 6:45 AM |
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| Nothing more to add. What zodiak said is right on. Health clearances and a proven track recorded along with a good pedigree are a must. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
   
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trueblushorthairs
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| 03/29/2010 4:57 AM |
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Please know that no one means any of their comments as personal attacks. However, you do need to understand how many really good males there are to breed to and how few folks will breed their female to an untitled young dog. Put a FC AFC or MH title on the dog then see if your doors get kicked in. Further, please have the dogs thyroid and hips tested. Preferable to have an OFA Excellent Field Champion than a dog you feel is great based on little experience or sample. To truly understand the number of high quality animals out there, attend a few horseback trials, NAVHDA events, or NSTRA events. See who wins and talk to their owners. You'll find that there is a glut of quality.
BUT, please get involved, run some hunting tests, puppy trials, etc. ALL clubs need members and helpers these days!! |
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momofguinness
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| 12/26/2010 9:09 PM |
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| Thanks for all the info. You guys suggest. Our Guinness is almost 9 months. I am going to start showing him in the spring when the local club here in Washington starts up again. He has not done much hunting. More or less goes after wings inward etc. So far. He has a fantastic pedigree. Nat'l champion and int'l champion in the past 7 generations. Some generations with 2 or more. He is of the no mars Enzo line from Idaho. He is fathered by Hauss and grandfathered by Enzo. I have a guy interested in guin when he is 2 or so and we get his of a certs. What should I look for in a female as to not make a bad choice? I am new to this so I think I will consult the breeder we got him from as well. They have a great history.. Upland hills kennel in port Angeles wa. Thanks for reading. Please be kind but honest. :0) |
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 12/26/2010 10:03 PM |
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First, I would read everything I could get my hands on about GSPs. There are some great books out there, but some are hard to find and pricey. I would also suggest the International shows as you will get written feedback on your pup. Listen to what they say and take that into consideration when looking for a female. I would also start going to shows and looking at what wins. Go to field trials and hunt tests and walk some braces to see what the good dogs are doing in the field. At the same time, I would start working your dog in field, conformation, obedience, etc. Video tape and take pictures and look at him in action. Use a critical eye when you are looking at him. Ask others in the breed that you trust to evaluate him too. If you are still convinced he will make a good stud, get his health clearances. I would also look at what else is out their in the stud market. As others have said there are some good studs out there. If at the end of all that you are still convinced he will make a good stud, go for it. Remember though that the owners of bitches that are looking for studs are looking at what will compliment and/or improve on the bitch they are breeding too, and not all bitches will be a good combo with your boy. Additionally, you need to also put at least a CH and JH on your boy. Even better would be a MH or FC. Also, some folks are looking for other performance ability like obedience and agility. It takes a good investment to make a good stud dog and it also costs $$. So, if you are prepared and willing to do those things you will do fine.
So to give you an idea of what I was looking for in a stud when I bred Halo I wanted to improve on her in two areas; her tail set and front assembly. I also wanted a male with at a minimum hips, elbows, eyes, cardiac clearances. I also wanted a finished male (CH) and at a minimum an MH or FC. I also looked at temperament, pedigree, etc. I also was looking at other litters the stud had produced and how consistent he was in his get.
There is a huge commitment that goes into breeding (or at least there should be) whether you have a male or a female. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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