BEANS Washington state
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| 12/12/2007 11:33 AM |
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Here in Olympia Wa. we really don't get too much extreme cold weather, I've been a little nervous walking Bean....my concern is her feet ! Can they get frost bite at temps around 26 degrees ? We walk everyday, but thats only 2 hours ouf of the day...the rest of the time she's in the nice warm house, with the exception of her potty breaks & back yard patrols !
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everbell Kanata, ON
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| 12/12/2007 11:57 AM |
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| I sure hope not! That's warm day here in Ottawa. |
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madmike
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| 12/12/2007 12:16 PM |
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We talked to our vet about hte same thing. My wife is over protective some time. Our temps Get into the minuses on a regular basis. My vet said be more worried about cutting the pads on ice than the cold. My wife bought Tater a camo vest anyhow. |
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MegC Ellensburg, WA
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| 12/12/2007 12:34 PM |
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Um.... you've SEEN the pictures of my dogs running over here in Ellensburg/Cle Elum/ Snoqualmie pass, right? You do know it gets a LOT colder over here, right? LOL.....
Seriously, 26F is NOT A BIG DEAL. Sled dogs at waaaaay below zero usually don't have problems with feet 'freezing' unless they've had some circumstance that cuts off circulation or have just run through overflow (open water).
Ice is much more serious. I'm nursing Rogan's feet right now after his toenail beds got banged up on ice all last week both out in the yard and while running. If you've got snowy crust to fall through or seriously abrasive ice conditions then checking feet may be in order. Same with salt and whatnot that they put on the roads now. But having grown up in Port Angeles, I can tell you those situations are going to be very rare and very short lived over there.
All the same, I recommend every dog owner have boots on hand just in case the inevitable happens. Alpine Outfitters could ship you a set of boots probably within a couple days since they're just 'up the road' from you. |
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Ranger Wisconsin
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| 12/12/2007 4:36 PM |
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Yes, here in WI we'd consider 26 degrees to be a warm spell. However, what's everyone's consensus on "how cold is too cold"? Recently we've had temps in the single digits and I've had Ranger out walking. He shivers when we stop (is he shivering as we walk too? Hmm?). Occasionally he'll favor a foot that I imagine may have gotten a little salt into or packed with snow. He won't let me mess with the foot much but usually after walking a little more it clears up. He doesn't have much extra fat and such sparse hair on his belly. Do I need a coat for him? Recommendations on brands, vendors? |
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everbell Kanata, ON
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| 12/12/2007 5:43 PM |
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Bo is pretty scrawny too, being a pup. We live in Eastern Ontario and have had some minus 20 (celsius) mornings already this year (his first walk of the day is with my husband at 4:30 a.m.). When it is that cold, he puts a light quilted coat on Bo and walks him FAST!
The problem I find with all the snow is that it is hard to walk him fast enough to keep him warm. So on the colder days, we all bundle up and go out in the back yard and chase him around so that he gets to move as fast as he can for as long as he can. He lets us know when he is done and goes right in. He only seems affected by the cold when he stops for any length of time. |
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Lucky7 Long Island, NY
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| 12/12/2007 6:43 PM |
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| Well it doesn't get nearly that cold here on Long Island...our worry in the winter is Seven's pads. He is constantly running and sliding on the ice/snow and slicing up his feet. He came home from running the other night with is feet ripped up!! The only way to describe it is that it looked like someone took a potato peeler to his pads. He actually ripped the skin completely off his "thumb" pad which is half-way up his leg...how he managed that I really don't know!!! We've tried shoes and he walks around like he is being punished...I'm sure you all know the look ears down with the pitiful eyes and frown?!?!? how do they do that?? |
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MegC Ellensburg, WA
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| 12/12/2007 7:25 PM |
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What you're describing with Seven is what I've often heard called 'slipped pads', for obvious reasons. I've actually superglued patches of vetwrap over that type of ding to keep a dog going (with boots afterwards FWIW). But yeah, they can really chew their feet up just rampaging around in ice and crust. You can toughen up feet and nails significantly by feeding a zinc suppliment although it won't ever totally overcome GSP exhuberance. Whaddya do, lol.....
As far as sub zero weather: mushing outfitters make coats, belly protectors, and a few full-works jackets. Alpine Outfitters has a super heavy duty coat that even covers up the tender bits, and Becky has told me it worked really well for them while in some deep cold during the Wyoming Stage Stop.
I start trying to get the dogs inside as much as possible once it stays in the low teens (F) or lower for an extended period of time, but they seem to pile out the door ready to zip and zoom around the yard even at below zero. I don't like to run them in harness at those temps mostly because *I* get so darn cold... weather like that doesn't usually stay for long around here so it's a simple matter of waiting a couple days anyway. |
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BEANS Washington state
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| 12/13/2007 6:24 PM |
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I realize cold weather is relative... that is Why I was concerned about Bean... Summer we take 30 minutes off our walk... maybe 20 ??? Bottom line is Bean lies down when she's tired... Winter she's "AN ANIMAL " LOL She will not stop... Summer I carry two water bottles & rest her when she pauses.. WINTER is a puzzle I still carry one 24 oz water bottle...& I'm decked with Cabela's DUCK hunting hat LOL The last low temp was 24 degrees...but BEANS house is set at 69 degrees Thanks Renee' |
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Ace1cappuccino Carp Lake, Michigan
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| 12/13/2007 8:58 PM |
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What kind of zinc supplement/ how much? I have trouble with Mocha keeps breaking nails. Back into the pad this last time. I keep them trimmed up but she still breaks them? Any help would be appreciated! As far as the cold goes, mine do fine with it but I still bring them in at night. After they run hard they do seem to shiver as they settle down. Not sure if it's them really being cold but they sure do like to come inside and sack out! |
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MegC Ellensburg, WA
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| 12/13/2007 11:02 PM |
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The two supplements I've used are from howlingdogalaska.com and alpineoutfitters.net. Both are human grade zinc gluconate powder that I add to their food. It is super cheap and should at least noticeably help the nails. Renee: what you're describing is pretty normal for the species IMO. Dogs are considerably better designed for cold than they are for heat, and every dog we've had got amped up when the temps drop. Again, our dogs are inside from evening to morning, and they definately don't like to just hang out without doing anything.... but they're more than rarin' to get out and play when it gets chilly! In fact our dogs have out-predicted the weather man several times over the years. They'll often go extra nuts right before the first cold snap of fall, the first snowfall up in the mountains, first snow down at the house, and a snow fall after an extended dry spell. I vividly remember one winter after several weeks of nothingness watching Dulcie and Brandy (lab/GSP mix) pestering us to go outside and then just careening around in silly circles... we'd bring them back inside and within a half hour they were bouncing off the walls, tag team wrestling, and begging to go out again... the weather report said nothing, but the dogs were so bonkers husband and I KNEW something was rolling in. Sure enough the next morning we had 4-6" of new snow! |
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Ace1cappuccino Carp Lake, Michigan
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| 12/14/2007 8:46 PM |
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| Thanks Meg! I will check into that for my dogs nails!! |
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Drunes
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| 12/18/2007 9:32 PM |
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| Both of my boys did well in North Dakota where subzero temps were not uncommon. I did not worry about frost bite but I did make sure there was no ice build up between the pads. I also use tuf-foot you will find it on the web if they have pads that tend to crack. |
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