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02/03/2010 7:49 PM  

Hi,

I'm working my one year old GSP through the SmartFetch program.

So far we have the following.

In the sit position he confidently holds a dowel, paint roller or training dumbell.
I have him walking with something in his mouth for distances of 200-400 meters.

Is he ready to move on to the next step of teaching him to fetch via the ear pinch method?

Thanks

Alex
 

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02/04/2010 5:18 AM  

What is the SmartFetch program? I'll look online and see if anything pops up.

I introduced an ear pinch before I taught Hold.

 

PS- Just found the book on Gun Dog Supply. Doesn't it say in the book when he introduces the pinch?


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02/04/2010 6:25 AM  

Evan is on GunDogForum, you might post there for his response.   But if the dog is doing all that I would think he was very ready to start ear pinch.


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02/04/2010 6:31 AM  
I use the Evan's program.
I am guessing you are following the book?
If you have any questions contact Evan. He is always willing to help and give advice.

Francine



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02/19/2010 12:19 PM  
Sounds like the first steps of the FF process to me. You now need to get him to open his mouth and later reach for the dowel....ie the ear or toe pinch.

Building the understanding that the discomfort will go away when the dowel is in the mouth.

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02/19/2010 1:37 PM  
Is the ear/toe pinch used to get them to release the object? Is an ear/toe pinch exactly that?
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02/19/2010 4:26 PM  
The ear pinch or toe pinch is to get them to take the object (any object) and hold it. Drop is a different part of the retrieve.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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02/20/2010 8:10 AM  

The initial purpose of the pinch is to get your dog to say,  "ouch"

When he goes......"ouuuu"  you stick the object in his mouth.   The mili-instant the object is in the mouth you as fast as possible let off the pinch.   This typically doesn't take very long for the dog to learn, < Object in mouth, pain go away>.  Soon they begin to reach for it, or anticipate the pinch.  You add in the verbal cue and slowly increase the distance the dog much reach....eventually laying it on the ground, then tossing....and on and on, etc, etc.


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02/20/2010 9:41 AM  
Also, just as an aside, the FF is taught the same way for Obedience retrieve over jump and retrieve on flat in the Open class. In fact, many of the obedience exercises were derived from the work done in the field with hunting dogs.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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