Isabell07
Fort Walton Beach FL
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| 11/20/2007 9:16 AM |
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Ok I know it takes a while to do but oh my I don't know how much I can take of the barking and winning. Since we are still doing the house breaking she has to be in the crate most the time when i can't keep an eye on her all the time. (like cleaning or cooking) . I don't want to go get her if she is winning b/c that will only teach her to do so. (Of you wine I will come take you out) We can go on long walks she comes in and lays on her pillow and falls a sleep so i pick her up and put her in her cratre only to hear her wine and howl for and hour. She is to the point that she is horse when she now does this. Any suggestions or basically she will get it with time. When she does calm down she does sleep in there nicely and for a few hours and oh let me put this in there she only howls that long when she knows we are home and only does it for like may 15min when we leave the house. It's to the point too that at night it it's hard to get her to sleep in there my husbands gives in and lets her sleep next to us and I think that is what she wants which I really don't mind but she is not housetrained and will go on the floor since he is a heavy sleeper and well she doesn't wine like she does when she is home during the day with me. Do you think covering the kennel up with like a blanket my help her? This is the first time I am crate training with a metal crate and she can see everything.. Just wanted to see what you guys thought. Thanks Heather |
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everbell
Kanata, ON
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| 11/20/2007 10:11 AM |
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You may want to invest in some ear plugs (seriously!). Bo is crate trained to the point where he doesn't sleep outside his crate (which is also annoying). If he know we're home and he's awake, he expects to be let out. Most of the time we ignore him, especially if we know his tanks are empty. And yes, sometimes it takes 20 minutes or more until he's quiet.
For the most part now, he's fairly content in his crate. One thing we always do is give him a treat when he goes in. And when he was really little, I would scratch his head while he was in his crate until he fell asleep.
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Diamond
Southwestern Ontario
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| 11/20/2007 2:23 PM |
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where do you have her crate at night? If it is not in the same room as you I would suggest moving it into your bedroom at night, at least for the moment...most of the time they just get lonely. Still you will have to go through some somewhat sleepless nights but be consistent (and yes earplugs might come in handy *winks*)!! Try feeding her in her crate as well....at feeding time put her food in and let her go into the crate to eat with the door open...then gradually begin to close it, then leave her in the crate for a little longer then just to eat etc...
I should say I have never had a puppy to crate train so I don't profess to be an expert...these are all just ideas I have picked up from reading so I don't know, it could work or not work.
I think the biggest thing to remember though is what you seem to already know...don't give in to the whining! Try as much as you can to ignore it completely (unless you think she has to GO!). |
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Ace1cappuccino
Carp Lake, Michigan
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| 11/20/2007 5:22 PM |
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| I would put the crate in the room with you. She is just lonely, she got pulled away from mom and dad and her brothers and sisters. She just needs time to make the transition. |
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Pointer Fan
Westminster, Colorado
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| 11/20/2007 7:00 PM |
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| GSP's generally want to be with their owners if the owners are at home. Ours was only crated when we were gone, at night and when we had company until she settled down. It is pretty hard to housebreak a dog if they aren't allowed out of the crate. Just keep a good eye on them and at the first sign of a squat just grab them up and hustle them outside. We have found that GSPs are surprisingly easy to housebreak. Our crate is down now and if we are gone for an extended period of time Molly is gated into the family room and kitchen area of the house. She is very non-destructive but does take the liberty of lying on the furniture. |
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Lucky7
Long Island, NY
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| 11/20/2007 8:47 PM |
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Crate training is hard...but once they get used to it I really think that it is the best thing for GSPs. Seven our 4 year old GSP is crated when we goto work during the day but is out whenever we are home...he sleeps outside the crate, we felt bad putting him in at night when he had been in all day, so we caved on the night crating. He has always been fine at night as long we took him running as a puppy when we went to bed so did he.
As for housebreaking, we had alittle trouble in that area...Seven would go to the back door when he was a puppy and actually pee on the rug in front of the door, because our back door was in the kitchen and couldn't be seen from anywhere in the house, we put a bell on the door and trained him to ring the bell when he wanted to go out and when he peed he got a bone when coming in...however being a GSP, his mind took over and he started ringing the bell whenever he need anything, like food, water, or if he just simply wanted us to get up and pay attention to him. When the "abuse" started we remove the bell, but by that time he was very well housebroken. Keep it up, she'll get it eventually...and the earplugs are probably a great idea, Seven whined whenever we put him in his crate, but now it is his safe place and he goes in when he's scared and sometimes even to take a nap if all the other good seats are taken.
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Isabell07
Fort Walton Beach FL
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| 11/26/2007 8:03 PM |
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| Thank guys things are looking up now with the crate i think some of it has to do with age now that she's getting older she is understanding a bit more; plus I moved her next to my bed and in the livingroom at other times when she has to go in it. Now if I could only get her to go outside and like it. She hates the cold. To bad she doesn't know that this is pretty warm yet for Northern New York LOL. I take her on a fast paced walk/run around the block a few times every night and that seems to do her good. Well that's were I am off to now. Thanks all! |
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Ace1cappuccino
Carp Lake, Michigan
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| 11/26/2007 8:38 PM |
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| Show her that outside time is fun. Play with her and let her chase you around the yard etc. Have her chase a ball around. They also shiver to get attention too. I am glad that moving the crate is working. Be patient and have fun with her. It will get better as they are VERY smart. To smart sometimes. |
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fourpointers@yahoo.com
Niagara, Wisconsin
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| 12/04/2007 8:26 AM |
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| I have four GSPs and the one male (haus) has broken through 7 crates which were described as "indestructible". He weighs in at 75 pounds. We tried a steel cage and he was able to break the welds with his teeth. We then just kept him in the garage where he then chewed off the doorknob to get into the house (7 doorknobs so far). If we don't lock him up, he destroys our furniture by ripping it to shreds. To look at his face, you wouldnt think he could be that destructive. Any Suggestions? |
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Newton
Alberta - North of Edmonton
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| 12/04/2007 12:14 PM |
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She also needs to be aclimatized, the more she is outside and having fun the more time she'll be able to spend outside. I also remember that when Lady was a little puppy her tummy had no hair on it, maybe a little jacket would help keep the snow off her belly so she doesn't feel so cold. They grow a nice thick coat when they are outside lots. Lady spend most of her time outside and has a thick sleak coat and her tummy now has hair on it!
I also think these dogs are so smart, they try to play you. The shivering and stuff is a ploy sometimes to get let in. Lady lifts her front feet and looks sad, but if she has something to do, like chase a bumper or the cats she is fine.
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ChipFTAC01
Houston, TX
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| 12/04/2007 4:17 PM |
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| On a somewhat related note, my 5 1/2 month old is driving me crazy. Regardless of what time we go to bed, she's ready to get up at 5:30. I'm not saying that I want to sleep the day away, but waiting for my alarm at 6:30 would be nice. But she's up at 5:30 and banging around in her crate. Should I just ignore her and eventually she'll learn or do I have 10 years of short nights to look forward to? |
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caly1522
GA
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| 12/04/2007 4:24 PM |
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My GSP use to do the same thing!!! Except she slept by my bed and would just try to jump up on it and wake me up. It drove me nuts! She grew out of it though. By the time she was 9-10 months old she slept until 7:30 which is when I generally wake up. Hopefully it is just a phase for your puppy too.  |
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Ace1cappuccino
Carp Lake, Michigan
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| 12/04/2007 4:27 PM |
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Mine are in the house at night. My wife gets up at 4:30 a.m. and her pup follows her out of the room to share toast with her. The others stay in bed until I get up. It might be that your dog wakes up and wants to be with you. These are very ppl oriented dogs.
4 pointers, Is the male the only one you keep in the garage? Is this while females are in heat? Why is he in the garage? These guys have very high separation anxiety, maybe your vet can give you something to relax him while you are away. |
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