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Cooper's MomUser is Offline


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11/06/2007 2:02 PM  

Stop jumping?  No, this isn't sport jumping or jumping off of a dock, this is jumping up on us all of the time.  Kota is 4 months old & he's constantly jumping on me, trying to push my back, my bottom, trying to get in jacket pockets, trying to see what's going on on the kitchen counter, etc.  Now that he is growing & getting stronger, sometimes he just jumps up & pushes himself off of me.  I've tried praise w/ treats when he remains "off" but then when he's not getting a cheerio (treat) he jumps up & pushes me as if to say, "Um, hello it's been 2 seconds since my last cheerio...keep'em coming mom!" 

I've tried sticking my knee up, tried keeping him on leash in the house & stepping on the leash when he starts to make the jumping motion, etc.  Knowing that it's a characteristic of the breed, is there a way to diminish it?

 

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11/06/2007 3:11 PM  

Im not sure about this, but I taught Chase "down". Once he learned  what down meant, I used it when he jumped up on us. If he was good he got rewarded, and if he didnt obey then I would turn and walk away. I also taught him to respect my space. I used a lead that looks like a lasso and when I walk him it takes only a slight tug. He learned when I moved in any direction he had to move away or with me. teaching eye contact is good too, so you know they are paying attention to you. I only have to to tell Chase to "watch" and he will turn and look at me. knowing space limits is important I would recomend an obedience or puppy class if you have any troubles. Good luck, Andrea

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11/06/2007 3:18 PM  
When you enter your house look straight ahead ignoring (no eye contact) your GSP Pup giving him no negative or positive response. Go about doing what you are doing for at least five minutes before you acknowledge your GSP. And only then when your GSP is calm and laying down or calmly sitting give him praise. It will be hard at first as he is flying and bumping into you. When you wake up in the morning too practice ignoring your GSP when he comes up to you. Get your coffee going and cereal poured in bowls or just sit and read the morning paper 5 first five minutes and only give him praise when he is calm and focused on something else. Then call him over and give him praise. He jumps at you , you turn your back on him with no eye contact or verbal response and totally ignore him until he is calm. Only when he is calm acknowledge him and reward with verbal and petting praise. You have to be consistent and make a commitment to ignore him for the first 5 minutes when you come home and enter your house. Practice leaving your house for 15 minutes and then come home ignoring him for five minutes before you say hello to him. Do this serveral times a day and eventually your GSP PUP will catch on. No treats needed for this exercise. Best of luck to you.

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11/06/2007 3:29 PM  
I simply increased the level of force when pushing the boys off of me when they jumped up on me. They have learned the command of "hug" when I want them to put their paws up on me.

Matt
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11/06/2007 5:24 PM  

Ya, I feel your pain. Bo is a master at grabbing my arm and putting me in an arm lock so he can hump me.  BTW, he only does this to me, not my husband.

Marie, thanks for the suggestions -- I am definitely going to try that with Bo. He is definitely much more exuberant in his greetings with me than he is with my husband. Perhaps a little lack of attention from his mom will get something through his thick skull!

Cooper's mom ... I swear our boys must share the same brain cell sometimes


Joce and Rich
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11/06/2007 7:23 PM  
At the obedience class we are taking the instructor showed her way of getting a dog not to jump. She demonstrated on a very exuberant lab puppy. What she did was to pinch his paws (Hard!) when he jumped up on her. He yelped but sure didn't persist in jumping on HER anymore.

I'm so glad Ranger isn't a jumper and she didn't demonstrate on him!! I felt really bad for that dog. Has anyone ever heard of this method before???

By the way, this is a well-respected trainer in our area and we have learned a lot in her class. Not exactly from the "Positive Reinforcement" school of thought, however.
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11/06/2007 8:18 PM  

Heh. I've tried everything from ignoring to trying to redivert with another command to punishment ranging from mild to the e-collar, with mixed results. I will say that if you have the time, just standing there holding onto the front paws and not letting go until they go into complete "lemmedownlemmedownlemmedown!" panic mode makes something of an impression.

Anya is sorta OK. Rogan will still do anything from just putting paws on to a full-on stiff-legged tackle hit that would make any linebacker proud... the weasel is an amazing judge of who will clobber him for it and who won't retaliate.

Dulcie tends to do the clawing leg thing no matter what we've ever tried. She'll stand there shaking and whining and going increasingly nuts until she just can't help it any more and flings herself at the person. When multiple hits on 'fry' with the e collar didn't even make the remotest dent, we threw in the towel and decided to just manage it. We'll hold her collar through that intitial frenzied petting by a stranger and then send her to her rug, and that's usually sufficient. If she's being really incorrigable we'll stick her out in the utility room behind the baby gate.

We still consider this an improvement over excited piddling whenever someone comes over, which is what Dulcie did until she was about 2 years old. You take what you can get....


Megan
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11/07/2007 5:19 AM  

He is trying to display domniance over you...seeking your attention all the time whenever he wants. The 5min rule as decribed above is very important to follow. Pack leaders never go to the underlings they come to the pack leader. The follower would never dare excert a display of dominance over the pack leader without confrontation. Stand up for your posistion as pack leader, when you do it will not only help stop the jumping up but many other problems too....just remember it is a day to day life style not just a one time "until it stops" thing.

The dog listener is where the 5 min rule comes from....trying finding it at your library, it is a really good read =D Good luck with your dog

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11/07/2007 6:30 AM  
I have used the squeezing the paws method. It does work. You don't have to squeeze super hard but just hold onto the feet as someone said until the dog is going crazy to get back on the ground. I use the word "off" to mean don't jump on me. Down means lie down to my dogs so be careful if use that one. The key is that everyone has to do this with dog, consistency. We have a command also that allows the dogs to jump on us, an extended arm.

Gail, Moka, Avery, Terra & Rayne
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Cooper's MomUser is Offline


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11/07/2007 8:17 AM  
Thank you all! Great suggestions. I'm definitely trying to find the right one for us. I tried ignorning him last night & he was calmer. I didn't take 5 minutes when I got home b/c I figured he had to get out of his crate & pee really bad. I did ignore him when he would jump on me & then after a few minutes when he was down on all 4's I'd praise him & pet him. He's become a dining room table & counter surfer so I tried to take his paws & place them on the floor & tell him "Off." That worked last night but this morning he was a bit hyped up.

Having this forum really helps!
MarieUser is Offline
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11/09/2007 11:52 AM  
Diamond, you are right about where the 5 minute ignoring rule book came from. It is THE DOG LISTENER author Jan Fennell. Is a great book on training the gentle way for dogs. I was fortunate to receive this book as a gift from my best friend. Such a good reference too, And yes, I find myself re reading some chapters to correct some of Rocky's behaviors. Good Xmas gift idea for your friends who have dogs.

Marie and Rocky, a tall, high energy GSP
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11/09/2007 1:11 PM  
BTW -- I have been trying the paw pinching technique with Bo and he seems to have gotten the idea. I'll let you know in a couple days if it is still working.

The ignoring him thing just doesn't work since if I ignore him, he'll just move on the something else, ie. the counter.

Joce and Rich
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11/10/2007 10:46 AM  
I sure hope this works. My 4 month old Trudy is a terrible jumper. I can't get dressed in the morning if she isn't in her crate. And she pretty much can't be out of her crate if I have guests over.
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11/14/2007 8:54 PM  

Having spent a good amount of my life training shorthairs, typically jumping something taught to them as a puppy without the owners knowing what they are creating. Training is about timing, persistance, patience and consistancy.

Get them into a routine, personally I do not speak to any of our boys when I come home until they have been outside and burn off the excess energy. I then use the time they are outside to prepare thier food. At that point I call them in make them sit and feed them. I will also pet them while they are eating and go over them as if they are being judged in conformation. I start this early from the moment they arrive at the house and do it the same way every morning and afternoon.

Any vistors to my house are not allowed to speak with our boys until we have settled down and then I call them over, down stay is a great command and needs to be practiced around strangers to work properly.

Hope some of this helps.


JBrown
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