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rickp

El Paso, TX

MH
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07/16/2009 7:32 PM
To: POINTING BREED FIELD TRIAL CLUBS Clarifying that Out-Riding by the Scout is Not Allowed – Out-riding occurs when a scout is sent to locate a dog and then, even when the dog has returned to the course, the scout does not return to the gallery. It is widely understood that out-riding should not occur. However it is not directly mentioned in the Rules and inexperienced judges are often not clear how to handle the situation. The Performance Events Department has received requests for clarification. The following addition to Standard Procedure Section 6-L Scouting was approved by the Board on July 13 and will be effective immediately – “When a dog has returned to the course and is under the handler’s control, the scout must immediately return to the gallery. A scout shall not engage in out-riding. If a judge feels a scout is out-riding, the judge shall instruct the scout to return to the gallery”.

WildRose

Seymour Texas

MH
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07/21/2009 3:57 AM
Not particularly effective. Often the scout stays out of sight and/or earshot for extended periods of time so the judge can't instruct them to do anything without sending someone else to find and rein them in. Thanks for posting it though.

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MH
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07/21/2009 10:44 PM
I am glad that AKC clarified this. I do think that many inexperienced judges do not know how to handler scouting. When I am judging I always tell the handlers and scouts at the beginning of the stake that if I see the dog in front, I better see the scout behind me. The only situation where that does not work is if you are in high mountain terrain and it is too hard for the scouts to return every time the dog does. That could be a horse killer. I instruct the scouts and handlers differently on courses such as that. tc

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