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09/21/2007 11:27 AM  
The roe-deer has vanished like rock-blaster Peterson did when he was carrying a case of dynamite and the building sites whistle called for a lunch break!
 
Not that it matters much. A little more than a week ago I was struck by the worst flu I have had for 20 years. For the third time I was set back to day 1 as far as fitness training was concerned. However, the flu is over and today I once again started to train to improve my condition. I had no problems walking a little more than a kilometre in rocky forest terrain with the dogs and a gun so I am pleased with that for now. Tomorrow we will start the day by shooting clay and end it with shooting put-out partridge over the dogs. I hope my set-backs are over now. In this game you really have to fight it seems, there is no such thing as a free lunch once you get a cardiac disease :-)))
 
Still there is hope. The other day "the rat pack" (remember Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis jr.) consisting of a huge flock of magpies landed near our house to have a Tex-Mex party on a partridge that had been killed by a raptor. I saw them from the window, loaded my gun and sneaked out through the other side of the house. Like Clint Eastwood I threw myself out from behind a corner of the house, the rat pack flushed like bolting rabbits and when I had fired both barrels and the smoke cleared away there was 3 corpse on the lawn. I was radiantly happy! I can shoot, I can shoot! A small success is also a success!
 
This is the third year in a row that the roe-deer has decreased in number and I think I know the reason why now. We live on an island and a bit more south there has been a farmer who has been shooting a lot of them during the years and sold the meat illegally on the black market. He has had different attractive crops on part of his land for the sole purpose to entice wild game to his land. Now I have heard that has lost still another screw in his head and don't give a damn about actual farming anymore, but only shoots game and cuts some timber. There is a very high probability that he has killed the entire pack of wild boar that roamed around here for a couple of years, not only managed to reduce the number of deer so dramatically. Most likely he is the cause for the lack of moose also.
I can only hope that he rapidly looses a couple of more screws so that his entire brain, or what is left of it, falls to pieces and they have to put him in a straight jacket or at least take his guns!
 
I have been invited to the north to hunt caper and willow grouse in forest terrain as soon as my strength allows me. A good incentive to keep on training!
 
Torsti
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09/22/2007 2:29 AM  
Re: [working-gundog] Return of the gunfighter!
Sorry to read you had bad flu Torsti, but glad that you were  beginning rehabilitation in the best way possible, being outside with dogs and gun!

Look forward to hearing about your hunt in the north when you are strong enough to go, which I guess won’t be too long with your determination.

Sonia


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09/22/2007 7:37 AM  
Tortsi,
You have an exciting adventure!  Super to read that you are doing better.  Sorry about the flu.  I knock on wood and hope when I hear someone has the flu!  Take care of yourself.
 
I see that Scandinavia is the place to be.  I envy you and would like to travel there some day.  However, I could never do with all the darkness.  However, to see the northern lights, experience the life of the northern countries, would be quite an experience.
 
I live in Arizona.

Sonia Skinner wrote:

Sorry to read you had bad flu Torsti, but glad that you were  beginning rehabilitation in the best way possible, being outside with dogs and gun!

Look forward to hearing about your hunt in the north when you are strong enough to go, which I guess won’t be too long with your determination.

Sonia





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09/22/2007 8:21 AM  
Re: [working-gundog] Return of the gunfighter!
 
 
  
I see that Scandinavia is the place to be.  I envy you and would like to travel there some day.  However, I could never do with all the darkness.  However, to see the northern lights, experience the life of the northern countries, would be quite an experience.
  
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I am like you Phyllis, would love to live in Scandinavia, it seems to be less altered than we in Britain are, we are now overcrowded, Tortsi seems to live the more natural life.  However, I share with you the need for daylight and could not cope with the hours of winter darkness, it is bad enough here when it gets dark about 3.30 – 4pm at its worst. I always stay out as long as I can with the dogs, it seems darker indoors.

Sonia
  


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09/22/2007 10:36 AM  
Sonia, Did you ever get to try the "heeling branch" instead of the highly vaunted, "heeling stick"? Jerry Sonia Skinner wrote:
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09/22/2007 2:03 PM  
Re: [working-gundog] Return of the gunfighter!
Don't blame the darknes - light a candle!
 
Many people have problem with the dark hours in the winter, but if you make them a friend instead you could use them as refuge where nobody could see you. You can do your morning training when you walk the dogs and nobody no that you are waving youre arms or stretching your back :-) You can weare youre ugliest clothes.... =o)
 
There is always a way to treat at problem - the darknes is not a problem if you don't make it to it ;-D
 
The picture is from 28 januari 7:42 in the morning, it was -13 celsius and so wonderful with the sun trying to get up over the Åland Sea. If you realy try, there is always something to see even in the darknes.
 
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Subject: Re: [working-gundog] Return of the gunfighter!


 
  
I see that Scandinavia is the place to be.  I envy you and would like to travel there some day.  However, I could never do with all the darkness.  However, to see the northern lights, experience the life of the northern countries, would be quite an experience.
  
 _________________________________________________________________________

I am like you Phyllis, would love to live in Scandinavia, it seems to be less altered than we in Britain are, we are now overcrowded, Tortsi seems to live the more natural life.  However, I share with you the need for daylight and could not cope with the hours of winter darkness, it is bad enough here when it gets dark about 3.30 – 4pm at its worst. I always stay out as long as I can with the dogs, it seems darker indoors.

Sonia
  


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09/22/2007 3:41 PM  
Jerry, Yes I did try the "heeling branch" but it wasn't successful as I felt silly wagging a large branch about! I didn't feel it taught the dog anything, it just stopped him moving forward physically while I had it. I probably didn't give it a fair trial. The most successful way I have found for me and the dog was not to go anywhere unless there was a slack lead, his shoulder at my knee and initially to keep turning away from the direction he wanted to go. Sonia
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09/22/2007 3:41 PM  
Re: [working-gundog] Return of the gunfighter!

Maud, there is a play here in Britain called “The Dark Is Light Enough” and I think you have proved that saying by your philosophy.

The photo was atmospheric and beautiful.  I miss the cold weather, I feel cold when it is warm and feel warm when it is very, very cold.

Sonia


On 22/9/07 20:52, "Maud & Torsti" wrote:

Don't blame the darknes - light a candle!

Many people have problem with the dark hours in the winter, but if you make them a friend instead you could use them as refuge where nobody could see you. You can do your morning training when you walk the dogs and nobody no that you are waving youre arms or stretching your back :-) You can weare youre ugliest clothes.... =o)

There is always a way to treat at problem - the darknes is not a problem if you don't make it to it ;-D

The picture is from 28 januari 7:42 in the morning, it was -13 celsius and so wonderful with the sun trying to get up over the Åland Sea. If you realy try, there is always something to see even in the darknes.

Maud

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09/22/2007 6:01 PM  
How large a "branch" did you try? I personally don't go about whacking my mutt with
a half a large oak tree, just a switch with a few whips branching off the end. It's hardly
more than the standard heeling "stick", but is more bothersome to the dog and seems to require
less force to obtain the requisite amount of canine attention. I suppose its best to use this
implement in the privacy of one's estate rather than on the main boulevard. People do look
askance at dogs being whacked with saplings.

Sonia Skinner wrote:
Jerry,

Yes I did try the "heeling branch" but it wasn't successful as I felt silly
wagging a large branch about! I didn't feel it taught the dog anything, it
just stopped him moving forward physically while I had it. I probably didn't
give it a fair trial.

The most successful way I have found for me and the dog was not to go
anywhere unless there was a slack lead, his shoulder at my knee and
initially to keep turning away from the direction he wanted to go.

Sonia






  

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09/22/2007 7:10 PM  
The description of the sun trying to get up really fits.  I now get hit with the rising sun as I travel to work in the mornings.  It's a little after 6AM now with the sun just rising.

Maud & Torsti wrote:
Don't blame the darknes - light a candle!
 
Many people have problem with the dark hours in the winter, but if you make them a friend instead you could use them as refuge where nobody could see you. You can do your morning training when you walk the dogs and nobody no that you are waving youre arms or stretching your back :-) You can weare youre ugliest clothes.... =o)
 
There is always a way to treat at problem - the darknes is not a problem if you don't make it to it ;-D
 
The picture is from 28 januari 7:42 in the morning, it was -13 celsius and so wonderful with the sun trying to get up over the Åland Sea. If you realy try, there is always something to see even in the darknes.
 
Maud
 
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"Ask not what your dog can do for you.
Ask what you can do for your dog."
www.rospigan.net
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [working-gundog] Return of the gunfighter!


 
  
I see that Scandinavia is the place to be.  I envy you and would like to travel there some day.  However, I could never do with all the darkness.  However, to see the northern lights, experience the life of the northern countries, would be quite an experience.
  
 _________________________________________________________________________

I am like you Phyllis, would love to live in Scandinavia, it seems to be less altered than we in Britain are, we are now overcrowded, Tortsi seems to live the more natural life.  However, I share with you the need for daylight and could not cope with the hours of winter darkness, it is bad enough here when it gets dark about 3.30 – 4pm at its worst. I always stay out as long as I can with the dogs, it seems darker indoors.

Sonia
  





Phyllis @ Mesa, AZ
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09/23/2007 8:18 AM  
Re: [working-gundog] Return of the gunfighter!

How large a "branch" did you try? I personally don't go about whacking my mutt with
a half a large oak tree, just a switch with a few whips branching off the end. It's hardly
more than the standard heeling "stick", but is more bothersome to the dog and seems to require
less force to obtain the requisite amount of canine attention. I suppose its best to use this
implement in the privacy of one's estate rather than on the main boulevard. People do look
askance at dogs being whacked with saplings.
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I have put down the oak log and taken up the Birch sapling:-)  Seriously though, I will try again, there are times when he does pull which are when we are in company.  Do you actually thwack the dog on the nose, or just waive it in front of the nose?

Sonia


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09/23/2007 11:11 AM  
Sonia, Phyllis and other folks who dislike the darkness!
We get as much sunlight as anybody else on this earth, calculated on a 12 month period. Some folks live with a rain period followed by a drought period. We have a warm sunlight period followed by a cold darkness period. This gives a lot of contrast to our life. It makes us sensitive to any slight shift of the nature. If you cant beat the cold darkness, join it! Learn to know it and use it to your advantage.
Contrast in life improves it. Bad wine makes good wine taste even better. Bad health will make you to appreciate good health even more. Until one year ago I lived a life of luxury, I did not have to take medicines every day. Now I have to take them every day. I got my life back but I lost the luxury part of it.
 
Now - back to basics! Yesterdays and today's exercises with the shotgun have been interesting. Yesterday I opened, first time clay shooting after the op., cautiously with a couple of misses on high clay targets. Then I found the way and started to hit again. I did not shoot much but tried many different angles and found that I shoot at least as well as  I did before the operation. I was pleased with that and we continued on put out partridge. That was a bit worse, I produced a couple of gliders that the dogs found after some search work. However I was able to analyse my misses and presumed I had shot in front of the birds and a bit high.
 
Today I made some research work on the stock of my gun and found it seemed a bit higher than before the op. I tried and tried again to dry fire at home for half a day and finally I was sure. Something had changed in my mount of the gun. Maybe the surgeon had put the wish-bone back the wrong way, who knows? Anyway, since I am a very radical man at times I without hesitation removed about 3 - 4 mm from the height of the comb and we went back to the shooting range. Now everything seemed so much more easy and I am sure that I shoot better now than before the operation. A hearth that works well seems to be important even when shooting clay :-))) A hearth is more than a life-supporting device, it seems!
 
There was a hair more of sunshine today than yesterday so Maud was busy with the camera, as me and the other geriatric in the house, Foxy, searched for more put-out partridge. Maud got a lot of good, and a couple of spectacular pictures, so tomorrow I will write still another story for Torsti´s corner. I´ll let you know when it is out.
 
Needles to say I got a better score on today's partridge and we will celebrate it by cooking the gliders from yesterday. They may not be really tender yet but as Cj said: You can eat anything if you cook it in an sufficient amount of chilli for long enough!
 
 
Torsti
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"Ask not what your dog can do for you.
Ask what you can do for your dog."
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09/23/2007 1:32 PM  
Re: [working-gundog] Return of the gunfighter!

Torsti,

I cannot stand our dark here!  I get claustrophobic at the thought of it getting dark at 4pm.  Maybe our darkness isn’t as free as yours.  I live in a more populated place than you do; when we first moved to this house, I could walk down our lane with the dogs off the lead with no fear of a car, now there are cars every few minutes.  We have too much artificial light, so the heavens are not revealed in their majestic splendour. To have the true heavens revealed would lend space to my darkness.

I look forward to Torsti’s corner, Maud’s photos are excellent.

Sonia


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09/23/2007 1:39 PM  
hi,
Well said.

Maud & Torsti wrote:
Sonia, Phyllis and other folks who dislike the darkness!
We get as much sunlight as anybody else on this earth, calculated on a 12 month period. Some folks live with a rain period followed by a drought period. We have a warm sunlight period followed by a cold darkness period. This gives a lot of contrast to our life. It makes us sensitive to any slight shift of the nature. If you cant beat the cold darkness, join it! Learn to know it and use it to your advantage.
Contrast in life improves it. Bad wine makes good wine taste even better. Bad health will make you to appreciate good health even more. Until one year ago I lived a life of luxury, I did not have to take medicines every day. Now I have to take them every day. I got my life back but I lost the luxury part of it.
 
Now - back to basics! Yesterdays and today's exercises with the shotgun have been interesting. Yesterday I opened, first time clay shooting after the op., cautiously with a couple of misses on high clay targets. Then I found the way and started to hit again. I did not shoot much but tried many different angles and found that I shoot at least as well as  I did before the operation. I was pleased with that and we continued on put out partridge. That was a bit worse, I produced a couple of gliders that the dogs found after some search work. However I was able to analyse my misses and presumed I had shot in front of the birds and a bit high.
 
Today I made some research work on the stock of my gun and found it seemed a bit higher than before the op. I tried and tried again to dry fire at home for half a day and finally I was sure. Something had changed in my mount of the gun. Maybe the surgeon had put the wish-bone back the wrong way, who knows? Anyway, since I am a very radical man at times I without hesitation removed about 3 - 4 mm from the height of the comb and we went back to the shooting range. Now everything seemed so much more easy and I am sure that I shoot better now than before the operation. A hearth that works well seems to be important even when shooting clay :-))) A hearth is more than a life-supporting device, it seems!
 
There was a hair more of sunshine today than yesterday so Maud was busy with the camera, as me and the other geriatric in the house, Foxy, searched for more put-out partridge. Maud got a lot of good, and a couple of spectacular pictures, so tomorrow I will write still another story for Torsti´s corner. I´ll let you know when it is out.
 
Needles to say I got a better score on today's partridge and we will celebrate it by cooking the gliders from yesterday. They may not be really tender yet but as Cj said: You can eat anything if you cook it in an sufficient amount of chilli for long enough!
 
 
Torsti
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Ask what you can do for your dog."
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09/24/2007 11:29 AM  
Torsti, "Today I made some research work on the stock of my gun and found it seemed a bit higher than before the op. I tried and tried again to dry fire at home for half a day and finally I was sure. Something had changed in my mount of the gun. Maybe the surgeon had put the wish-bone back the wrong way, who knows?" They cut the chest wall muscles and when they stiched them back up it healed in a slightly different place. When you put the gun to the shoulder it is off a tad. The nerves remember the old place and try to bring ther gun up to a place that is not there anymore. Just keep practicing bringing up to your shoulder and it will become natural for you. Yeara ago I got some shrapnel in my face (I should have ducked a tab bit more) One piece when through my eyelid and into the cheek completley missing the eyeball. I took another piece missed my external carotid...and I don't know how. I was lucky but it gave me a stigmatism that started to affect my shooting 35 years later and that got me upset until I again realised what I got to see for all these years when I should have been worm food. Reflecting on what could have been I am more grateful to be alive as I get older. These near death things tend to do that. So you will get to enjoy life even more than most because you know first hand what the alternative can be. You hang in there and it will get better. Hey Pheasant opens October 1 (no frost yet so it is really thick) and duck season opens October 13th. Life is good. ted
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09/24/2007 1:01 PM  
Ted wrote:
>>>They cut the chest wall muscles and when they stiched them back up it healed
in a slightly different place.  When you put the gun to the shoulder it is
off a tad.  The nerves remember the old place and try to bring ther gun up
to a place that is not there anymore. Just keep practicing bringing up to
your shoulder and it will become natural for you.>>>
 
I would not complain. I shot very well yesterday and today I killed a superfast magpie and a very high ringneck pigeon with one shot each. I am more than pleased! Anyway, thanks a lot for the explanation! I will pass the information to my clay shooting gun nut-friends. They will like me find it most interesting!
 
>>Reflecting on what could have been I am more grateful to be alive as I get
older.  These near death things tend to do that.
So you will get to enjoy life even more than most because you know first
hand what the alternative can be.You hang in there and it will get better.>>>
 
During the decades I sailed world wide I was several times very near death. However those things happens so fast so they will perhaps not make you think deeply enough. This cardiac problem has given me a year now to ponder about life. That makes a difference.
 
Talking about world wide sailing and contrast in life due to weather and light conditiones. In 1970 - 1971 I worked for 14 months on a Swedish reefer liner. We sailed with frozen goods from Australia to USA and Canada and general store back to AU. We use to discharge in Tampa, Charleston, Norfolk, New York, Philadelphia, Boston, Halifax, Montreal, Toronto and Hamilton. Then when sailing southbound we usually loaded general store in most of the ports mentioned. The ship was fast, it covered 480 - 500 nautical miles per day. Most of the time we spent in the heat of the Pacific Ocean and AU. However, at times when it was winter in North America and we were north bound on the American east coast we could have +22 centigrade in the morning and in the evening we had already traveled into a snow storm a little bit farhter north. That was a little bit brutal contrast between the warm comfort of the south and the cold reality of the north!
 
>> Pheasant opens October 1 (no frost yet so it is really thick) and duck
season opens October 13th. Life is good.>>
 
Good luck, shoot straight!
 
Torsti
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Ask what you can do for your dog."
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