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stuwest

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09/30/2008 9:24 AM
" with some pointers and setters you can't get them to stop pointing" Which becomes a greater problem than lack of staunchness... Stu, Dawn & Hunter West Founder, Pointing Labradors "Letting Labs Point the Way!" Alma Bottom Pointing Labradors N4758 350th Street, Elmwood, WI 54740 (715) 639-3900 h&w (715)684-9892 cell StuWest@AlmaBottom.com www.AlmaBottom.com Cj wrote: > Jere Murray wrote: >> Methinks you have generated a definition of FAB all your own. >> Nothing wrong with >> that, but this one seems to require some interference with the dog by >> the handler. >> >> FWIW the pointers I hunted over as a youngster never acknowleged the >> handlers >> presence in any way - the pointed and held point until released. >> Those V=-dogs may >> be different as may be PLs which barely point IME. >> >> Jere >> > ~~~~~~~~~~ > Not really, the pointing is a fixed action pattern itself, the holding > of it is a variable since it can be terminated by a range of releasers > from the human voice to a touch or a gunshot. > Each species of bird and kind of terrain generates different patterns > of pointing and handler approach. In our areas the dog's > acknowledgment of the handler's presence is most often a shift in the > position of the ears or a very slight movement of one of the front > feet. This is an advantage for me in training since the dog actually > tells me if I can speak to it or not. Extremely strong pointing > instinct is such that some dogs may never even notice the handler > although that level of intensity is rare among versatiles. > Among the versatile breeds there is a great variation in styles of > pointing and steadiness. Most continental versatile breeds adapt > their styles to the behavior of the handler/hunter (or vice versa) and > so if you survey a lot of different dogs you can soon find a line that > will match your personal preferences. No doubt you have noticed that > there appears to be an inverse relationship between pointing & > steadiness and a bird dog's propensity to retrieve. It takes some > steadiness work to get moderate pointing with a pL whereas with some > pointers and setters you can't get them to stop pointing. { Cj >

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