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cwalt
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| 09/14/2007 6:32 AM |
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| Have we succumbed to lethargy? Or is it pre-hunting season preoccupation?
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stuwest
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| 09/14/2007 7:30 AM |
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| you sound geographically biased...
Stu, Dawn & Hunter West
Founder, Pointing Labradors
"Letting Labs Point the Way!"
Alma Bottom Pointing Labradors
N4758 350th Street, Elmwood, WI 54740
(715) 639-3900 h&w (715)684-9892 cell
StuWest@AlmaBottom.com www.AlmaBottom.com
Cj wrote:
> Have we succumbed to lethargy? Or is it pre-hunting season
> preoccupation?
> Cj
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cwalt
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| 09/14/2007 7:38 AM |
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> you sound geographically biased...
> Stu, Dawn & Hunter West
Of course I am... and I'm biased in a lot of other ways... I like dogs for
example and think they're neat animals. I like to watch people training
dogs and interacting with dogs and I relish interspecies communications...
we also have some good trout and salmon fishing here in Maine. Why
shouldn't I be biased?
Cj
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craig
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| 09/14/2007 8:03 AM |
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| Pre hunting lethargy?
Actually this is the busiest time of year for me. School opened last
week (www.prairieview.ca) as did the waterfowl season. When I am not
in my school barking orders at the staff and students I am in the
field keeping my mouth shut following the dogs.
I hope to keep a blog of the season this year. It is almost ready to
launch. Lots of photos and up to date updates of our days in the
field. This year we will be hunting in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, North
Dakota, South Dakota, Germany, Holland and maybe France. And in case
you are wondering how I can afford the $$ and time to do all of that,
its not that hard at all:
I work 24/7 the rest of the year and eat mainly Kraft Diner and day
old bread.
On 14-Sep-07, at 7:23 AM, Cj wrote:
> Have we succumbed to lethargy? Or is it pre-hunting season
> preoccupation?
> Cj
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jerry
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| 09/14/2007 8:28 AM |
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Maine is a pretty nifty place. It's not New Hampshire, but it's certainly
worth having a bit of bias.
Cj wrote:
you sound geographically biased...
Stu, Dawn & Hunter West
Of course I am... and I'm biased in a lot of other ways... I like dogs for
example and think they're neat animals. I like to watch people training
dogs and interacting with dogs and I relish interspecies communications...
we also have some good trout and salmon fishing here in Maine. Why shouldn't
I be biased?
Cj
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farmd69
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| 09/14/2007 9:21 AM |
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| NO we are just waiting for a good topic.
ted- Yes a voice not heard in years. Left the hallowed halls of acedemia
and moved up to my farm.
Hey Cj, Torsti I got another Boykin. Lots of talent and drive....Its a shame
she has me as an owner. However she gets to chase pheasants and turkeys
every day. Dare I mention that duck season opens in 4 saturdays. If the
drought stays around my sloughs will have a few trying to wet their feet.
Life is sometimes really good.
>From: "Cj"
>Reply-To: working-gundog@web.whc.net
>To:
>Subject: [working-gundog] anybody here?
>Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:23:00 -0400
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>Have we succumbed to lethargy? Or is it pre-hunting season preoccupation?
>Cj
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rospigan
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| 09/14/2007 9:37 AM |
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>>Have we
succumbed to lethargy? Or is it pre-hunting season
preoccupation?
Cj>>
Killed two red foxes. Sighted a number of roe-deer
but none at a shooting distance. Have kept the sights on moose a number of times
but never put the safety of since it is not season yet. Fished with nets, got
one single perch. Had a quarrel with my heart-care nurse. Worked 3 days with
phone calls to this and that support to get the email started again. Found that
some technician somewhere had fiddled with the settings of a server without
telling it to the support or the customers. Got it working this morning. Will
go out tonight and shoot still another fox and pretend it is a computer
technician!
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel "Ask not what your dog can do for you. Ask
what you can do for your dog." www.rospigan.net |
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cwalt
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| 09/14/2007 10:52 AM |
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> Hey Cj, Torsti I got another Boykin. Lots of talent and drive....Its a
> shame
> she has me as an owner. However she gets to chase pheasants and turkeys
> every day. Dare I mention that duck season opens in 4 saturdays. ... >
> Life is sometimes really good.
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I don't know if I should commiserate with you or congratulate you, I guess
the latter is in order.... congratulations! Hunting is drawing near here in
the northeast. I went out to check on my shotguns with fixed and moving
targets. I have been developing a cataract in my right eye and everything
in my focused view (I'm right eyed) is a total blur. Interestingly it
appears that my shooting has improved, especially with moving targets! I
guess that you only need a generalized moving blur to swing and shoot
accurately. Duck hunting starts in a few weeks and I'll find out if
eyesight is a help or a hindrance then.
Cj
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farmd69
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| 09/14/2007 11:42 AM |
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| Well you are right you don't need both eyes and when instinct takes over we
usually shoot a lot better. Come on get the cataract fixed. Sorry that is 20
years at a med school talking.
What I hate is my son is just a 1/10 of a second faster than me when we
shoot clay birds. The damn birds seem to break just before my gun goes off.
As for the Boykin she is the most precoious dog I have ever owned. Born June
22 she was trailing and flushing birds in August. Retrieving pigeons shot
coming out of the barn in September. These dogs could hunt out of the
whelping box. She was smart enough not to tangle with a coyote trying to
make boykin chip out of her or chase the bear in the sweetcorn field. Now
if I could just get her to give tongue to rabbits and not chase the chickens
around here I'd have myself a winner.
ted
>From: "Cj"
>Reply-To: working-gundog@web.whc.net
>To:
>Subject: Re: [working-gundog] anybody here?
>Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:43:46 -0400
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>>Hey Cj, Torsti I got another Boykin. Lots of talent and drive....Its a
>>shame
>>she has me as an owner. However she gets to chase pheasants and turkeys
>>every day. Dare I mention that duck season opens in 4 saturdays. ... >
>>Life is sometimes really good.
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>I don't know if I should commiserate with you or congratulate you, I guess
>the latter is in order.... congratulations! Hunting is drawing near here
>in the northeast. I went out to check on my shotguns with fixed and moving
>targets. I have been developing a cataract in my right eye and everything
>in my focused view (I'm right eyed) is a total blur. Interestingly it
>appears that my shooting has improved, especially with moving targets! I
>guess that you only need a generalized moving blur to swing and shoot
>accurately. Duck hunting starts in a few weeks and I'll find out if
>eyesight is a help or a hindrance then.
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rospigan
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| 09/14/2007 1:14 PM |
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Ted wrote:
>>Hey Cj,
Torsti I got another Boykin. Lots of talent and drive....Its a shame
she has
me as an owner. However she gets to chase pheasants and turkeys
every
day. Dare I mention that duck season opens in 4 saturdays. If
the
drought stays around my sloughs will have a few trying to wet their
feet.
Life is sometimes really good.>>
I wish I was walking in your shoes, handling a new
spaniel among pheasants and other birds that can be turned into a dinner! Owning
a few Spaniels are also a good way to stay healthy and live a long life. I hope
I can get well enough to have one in the future.
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel "Ask not what your dog can do for you. Ask
what you can do for your dog." www.rospigan.net |
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rospigan
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| 09/14/2007 1:14 PM |
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Cj wrote:
>>I went out to check on my shotguns with fixed and moving
targets. I have been developing a cataract in my right eye and
everything
in my focused view (I'm right eyed) is a total blur.
Interestingly it
appears that my shooting has improved, especially with
moving targets! I
guess that you only need a generalized moving blur
to swing and shoot
accurately.>>
My guess is that you now have no other option than
to focus on the target only, and drop everything that has to do with the barrel.
That is something you should have done from the day you started shooting with a
shotgun. Never mind the barrel, the focus of the eye must be on the bird, on the
bill of the bird. Then, if the gunstock fits you and you move and
mount correctly, you will hit!
I have learned a lot about shotgun shooting when I
have been ill. It is a very interesting science of its own and in fact I have
just finished an article about introducing young folks to clay shooting, to the
Swedish sporting clay magazine. We will see if they publish it.
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel
"Ask not what your dog
can do for you.
Ask what you can do for your dog."
www.rospigan.net
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farmd69
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| 09/14/2007 1:27 PM |
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| Torsti,
I hope you get better. You never got up to my place in NY. Last time we
talked Foxy was a pup herself. The invitation is always open.
I took the pup out just now for 45 minutes. She flushed 12 turkeys, 2 wood
ducks, a total of 7 pheasants in 4 different groups and what I think was a
rabbit. She still tends to be a range a bit and is too silent for my
liking. With my extremely thick cover I like the dog to make some noise
when making game. A faux paux to be sure for the purist but I hunt so
whatever makes my life easier.. I do think she is coming along.
Well tell Maud hi and get better. The best time of the year from now till
Christmas has arrived.
ted
>From: "Maud & Torsti"
>Reply-To: working-gundog@web.whc.net
>To:
>Subject: Re: [working-gundog] anybody here?
>Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:54:21 +0200
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>Ted wrote:
> >>Hey Cj, Torsti I got another Boykin. Lots of talent and drive....Its a
>shame
>she has me as an owner. However she gets to chase pheasants and turkeys
>every day. Dare I mention that duck season opens in 4 saturdays. If the
>drought stays around my sloughs will have a few trying to wet their feet.
>Life is sometimes really good.>>
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>I wish I was walking in your shoes, handling a new spaniel among pheasants
>and other birds that can be turned into a dinner! Owning a few Spaniels are
>also a good way to stay healthy and live a long life. I hope I can get well
>enough to have one in the future.
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>Torsti
>Borta Med Vindens Kennel
>"Ask not what your dog can do for you.
>Ask what you can do for your dog."
>www.rospigan.net
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rospigan
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| 09/14/2007 2:00 PM |
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>>Torsti,
I hope you get better. You never got up to my
place in NY. Last time we
talked Foxy was a pup herself. The
invitation is always open.>>
Thanks a lot Ted for the invitation! It warms my
heart and was correctly timed since I am right now in a moment of depression.
Maud sends her love also!
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel "Ask not what your dog can do for you. Ask
what you can do for your dog." www.rospigan.net |
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cwalt
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| 09/14/2007 9:10 PM |
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My guess is that you now have no other option than to focus on the target
only, and drop everything that has to do with the barrel. That is something
you should have done from the day you started shooting with a shotgun. Never
mind the barrel, the focus of the eye must be on the bird, on the bill of
the bird. Then, if the gunstock fits you and you move and mount correctly,
you will hit!
Torsti
I've always shot with both eyes open and about 85% of the time I can ignore
the gun barrel. Now I'm closer to 95% because I can't really see the barrel
of the gun. Of course I can't see the bird's beak either.
Cj
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rospigan
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| 09/15/2007 11:10 AM |
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>>>I've always shot with both eyes open and about 85% of the
time I can ignore
the gun barrel. Now I'm closer to 95% because I
can't really see the barrel
of the gun. Of course I can't see the
bird's beak either.
Cj >><
So did I but last year when I started to take
medicines some of them played devil with me. For ex. I lost some in
concentration ability and found that I could think of other things while waiting
for the clay, instead of being ready to attack. Not a very good practice.
Hence I found that at times I shoot better if I close the left eye. If
nothing else it forces me to think about the shooting.
In reality wing shooting is a mess because we
(the great mass of wing shooters) have made a mess out of it. We old-timers are
so full of different recipes, that we have picked up during the years and
decades, for how to shoot clay or wing, so I guess there is no longer a
cure for us. We are unable to once again simplify things.
However if we can pick a totally fresh and "empty"
pupil and give him/her the same careful and well thought-out start
that we give our young puppy, then wing shooting can be made into something very
easy and natural.
Borta Med Vindens Kennel
"Ask not what your dog
can do for you.
Ask what you can do for your dog."
www.rospigan.net
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jmurr
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| 09/15/2007 2:49 PM |
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| >>>>I've always shot with both eyes open and about 85% of the time I can ignore
> the gun barrel. Now I'm closer to 95% because I can't really see the barrel
> of the gun. Of course I can't see the bird's beak either.
> Cj >><
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You never did claim to be able to hit any birds anyway - what's the problem?
I shot with both eyes open until the cataract in my right eye resulted in my brain
switching eye dominance for me. I tried all sorts of subtefuge to fool myself into
useing the right eye - Vaseline smeared on the lens in front of the left eye,
patches of tape or tissue paper stuck on the lens in the precise spot that would
result in the left eye not being able to see the bird (unconsciously I then lifted
my head ever so slightly off the stock to get around that), etc. The only thing
that worked was to consciously shut the left eye and shoot one-eyed. Finally early
this summer, I had the lens in the right eye replaced. It is now 20/20 w/o
correction at distance. I do need to get some shooting practice though. That
isn't going to happen on wild birds up here this year!!
Jere
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rospigan
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| 09/15/2007 7:51 PM |
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Jere wrote:
>>>I shot with both eyes open until the cataract in my right eye
resulted in my brain
switching eye dominance for me. I tried all sorts
of subtefuge to fool myself into
useing the right eye - Vaseline smeared on
the lens in front of the left eye,
patches of tape or tissue paper stuck on
the lens in the precise spot that would
result in the left eye not being able
to see the bird (unconsciously I then lifted
my head ever so slightly off the
stock to get around that), etc. The only thing
that worked was to
consciously shut the left eye and shoot one-eyed.>>>
Due to my profession as a seaman I got to have my
health including my eyes checked every second year so I have always been aware
of the status of my eye sight. A friend of mine, also a keen shooter and hunter,
started to have problems with his shooting and he could not understand the
reason for it for a long time. He had not had his eyes checked for decades.
Finally, more or less by chance, he discovered that he had a serious cataract in
his right eye. He also got a new lens and is perfectly OK now.
It is however very easy to make a self-check of
your eyes, considering cataract. It would be surprising to have exactly the same
degree of cataract in both eyes. So all you have to do is to look at any object
and then first close one eye, then open it and close the other eye. Any
difference in sharpness (dimness?) should alarm you to go and have your
eyes checked.
Torsti
Borta Med Vindens Kennel "Ask not what your dog can do for you. Ask
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