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Chris
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| 09/08/2008 8:55 AM |
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Hello everyone this is my first post on these forums! My fiancé and I are going to get a GSP pup in the next 6 months but we are unsure of the method we should use to get one. My fiancé really wants to get an adopted GSP or one from a shelter where I lean more towards wanting to get one from a breeder...
I will not be hunting the GSP at all but he/she will lead a very active life. Can you guys give me the pros and cons of each so we can better weigh our decision? Do females tend to have better temperaments then males or is it dog to dog? Since I live in a residential setting would I need a fence?
I have tons of questions but I guess those will get me started for now!!!
Thanks!!!!
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BEANS Washington state
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| 09/08/2008 9:14 AM |
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I'd say go with your heart and use your brain....Which it appears you are doing, by doing your homework, asking questions.....and trying to be prepared.
I vote for a fence, but it is not always possible, for everyone. When Bean is not in her fenced area 1/2 acre....I keep her on a leash.....
We rescued Bean, knowing nothing about the breed, it was an ACT NOW decision....we have learned a lot from this forum, and the one thing I KNOW for sure GSP's are very adaptable, given love, exercise, and training. Good luck.
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wgspr rescue Milwaukee, WI
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| 09/08/2008 9:21 AM |
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Whoohooo, I get the forum first, so here is my point of view from rescue:
I love rescued dogs, myself. What you see is generally what you get. Your rescue group has cleaned the dog up, had all it's vet work updated, they will know all of their dogs well, ours live in homes with our foster families, so they are tested with kids, cats, household living, as best we can. Your new rescue dog will most likely be potty trained, crated trained, leash trained, and possibly tested on bird, and recall trained. If not the ground rules have been laid for you to take over training where we left off. Rescue dogs bond tightly with their new families, they are so grateful for the new chance in life, they will give you their all.
In my experience, most men are not fond of a rehabbed rescue dogs. They simply have a very short patience for something like this. It is my opinion that most dogs that land in shelters land there for a reason, and majority of those reasons will be behavioral. Who created that? Yeah, just my thoughts.... Remember these dogs rarely come with pedigree papers, even tho when most were welped, they did have them. If you have an energenic family and want a low maintenance dog, a GSP is the one for you. They are wonderful family pets, who will guard your house and protect your family. And they will want to be with you, touching you, beside you, next to you in bed at night, next to one of the kids. GSPs have alot of character. I believe what you give is what you shall receive.
Far as females versus male...I truely think you need to consider the individual dog for your family first. I find male dogs bond with female humans, whereas the girls like their men figures in most cases. But that is not always the rule. Females tend to live up to the name Bitch, in alot of ways. A female will generally be smaller then a male, if you are seeking a smaller dog for the house. But right now I have some smaller males in rescue, so you never know.
Your fencing question: It will be to your advantage to have fencing. It's for your new dogs safety and your sanity. But if you do your training, you should not need a fence, because these dogs were bred to be hunters, if they do hunt, you will need to trust them off lead. If you put your time into recall training, and let the bonding process happen, you could trust your dog off lead. But I personally, like the ease of knowing my dogs stay in their safe, fenced yard.
If you have more specific concerns or questions, feel free to contact me. I'm sure there is a rescue group in your area.
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Lisa C. Rossman WI GSP Rescue, Inc (wgspr.com) "Until there are none, rescue just one!"
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JCK
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| 09/08/2008 9:31 AM |
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I would determine whether you're willing and able to raise a puppy. It's a big commitment to get a dog, and an even bigger one to raise a young puppy.
For us, my wife and I both work fairly long hours, so we decided we could not handle a young puppy. We got ourselves a 1 1/2 year old dog (who still acts like a puppy), a lab and we think GSP mix (our best guess). I run her every morning for a few miles, she gets a dog walk/play group in the afternoon, and my wife takes her on a walk or run in the evening.
Puppies need more attention; they can't go more than a few hours without a bathroom break until they're a bit older.
Good luck!
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pixie bee
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| 09/08/2008 10:44 AM |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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unowhoandwhy Middleofnowhere, NH
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| 09/08/2008 11:51 AM |
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| I ditto that! I have one of each (one I got as a pup & one from rescue when she was 18 months old) and both are wonderful, but I have just as strong a bond with the rescue as I do with the one I got as a pup & I didn't have to deal with a naughty puppy that ate my couch & peed on my floor! :>D |
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BEANS Washington state
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| 09/08/2008 12:04 PM |
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I think this would be a good time for the " COUCH " pic.....
I know I could use a great big AHAAAAAA......and a laugh
BTW....I have a bucket of spa towels by my backdoor ( grab on the way to the hot tub )......There are twelve...and not ONE isn't puppy frayed...from my last LAB pup...
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unowhoandwhy Middleofnowhere, NH
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| 09/08/2008 12:17 PM |
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Daniel Yankee Flyer - 8/2002 Lady Layla - 1/2006 |
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BEANS Washington state
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| 09/08/2008 3:42 PM |
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I still say that Daniel didn't DO THAT......hahahahahahaha
he's too sweet and innocent
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sjgz314 Chicago, Illinois
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| 09/08/2008 4:57 PM |
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My husband and I have rescued two: a 7 year old (Maggie) and a 2 year old (Axle) (not at the same time) and can't imagine getting one as a 8 or 12 week old. We both work full time and felt that it would be enough responsibility to have a dog without also having to teach it to come when called, its name, that bathroom is outside, etc. By missing the intial puppy years, it made it much easier to integrate into our lives. Not that there isn't lots you can (and will) teach a rescue dog. Maggie came to us only knowing 2 commands, but very quickly picked up on what we wanted. Then she realized that it would be easier to just train me to do what she wanted...and she was very happy. : ) I couldn't be happier with our decision to rescue. Both dogs have been wonderful and fit themselves into our lives very quickly. There was never any problem with them bonding with us. They were so happy to have a family that they made sure we would love them too much to ever give them away. And I feel great that I was able to save dogs who really needed us. As for the male/female thing...I think it really does depend on the individual dogs and the individual people. Our female was really my dog and our male is more of my husband's dog. When we got Maggie, I had wanted a dog more than anything and I took the lead in caring for her. Also, we think she was abused by a man, so she liked women more than men. When we brought home Axle a couple of months ago, I was newly pregnant, so my husband to the lead in caring for him. But I have also noticed that Axle will go up to strange men on the street or at the park and try to get them to play catch. So I think he likes men best. When you guys are ready to bring one home, the right dog will find you. I knew right away both times that each dog was the one that belonged in our family. |
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laurenmarie MI
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| 09/08/2008 11:37 PM |
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That couch picture kills me every time...LMAO! Sounds like you are definitely doing your homework. I got Kaiser from a breeder. Didn't do much research, and will say that I lucked out w/ him. We don't have a fence and he doesn't leave the yard (not on a leash ever in the yard). He's not active at all...he lays on the couch all day long. He's the snuggliest, cuddliest dog in the world My point is that they are all different. Maybe look for some breeders in your area and visit a couple of rescues. The right dog will find you  |
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DavyLee Raymond, Maine
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| 09/10/2008 7:24 AM |
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| Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought a lot of breeders (at least the ones locally in Maine) would not sell to non-hunting homes. However, we bought a dog from a military couple that was moving and made out great. He is a male and prefers myself and the daughter, but would rather be with me everywhere I go, yes everywhere, however he sleeps in my daughters bed. But he was easy at 2-1/2 yo to integrate into a family where both adults work. He gets his exercise before and after work. |
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carlower1 Kansas
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| 09/10/2008 12:56 PM |
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Not completely true, While there are some die-hard breeders out there, it is not uncommon for a litter to be thrown that has at least one non-hunter pup in the mix. Usually those dogs, or dogs that have been returned go to non-hunting families. Reputable breeders are usually pretty good in helping people match a dog's personality with the family it is going to Carrie |
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Dwayners Toronto, ON
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| 09/11/2008 11:13 AM |
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rescue! especially if you live in or near a state that has a lot of hunters.
my current and former shorthair were both rescue dogs, you get a little something more when you rescue, there's a real sense of gratitude from the dog and not so much in the way of potty training.
Plus so many dogs need good homes, it feels amazing to recuse a dog. |
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flygirl Muncy, PA
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| 09/12/2008 6:46 AM |
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Uno,
OHHHHH MYYYY GOSH! I had a lab that chewed but not like that! I can see why BEANS wanted to see the pic again How old was Daniel when he did this and was it all in one day? I would assume that that is his sofa now?
Thanks for sharing with us newbies!
Deb
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unowhoandwhy Middleofnowhere, NH
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| 09/12/2008 9:01 AM |
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| Daniel was under a year & hadn't had enough exercise before I left him home with my older dog while I was at work. The couch was taken to the dump and I learned to make sure he was properly exercised from then on, because a tried GSP is a good GSP! |
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Daniel Yankee Flyer - 8/2002 Lady Layla - 1/2006 |
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