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08/24/2008 3:26 AM  

I have to brag on my new pup, she is amazing, love her to death. I have a question though. Been crating her at night when I sleep for past 4-5 days since I got her but she cries/barks all night non-stop, think my sanity is going lol. Anyone have this with their pups and have any suggestions that help solve this problem. I've put toys in, a old t-shirt, etc.. and I ignore her barking till she stops for few secs to let her out to urinate but Its starting to bother my neighbors. other than her night time issues she never makes a peep.


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08/24/2008 9:34 AM  

Where are you putting the crate?  If you don't have it near you move it.  With puppies I always start out with them right next to my side of the bed.  I also will play with them and wear them down a few hours  before bed time.  If they are still wound up when you are ready for bed, I will lay down and cuddle with them until they calm down and go to sleep (some times you have to hold them and make them stay put in order to calm them down), then move them to the crate.  Usually after a few days they catch on and are fine.  My crate also opens on the top so I can put my hand down in the crate to reassure the little guy. I have an 11 week old that is doing really good in the crate, but he still wants to see me before he will lay down.  So, I put him in the crate and sit just where he can see me and talk to him softly and he goes right out. 

One other thing you can try is a radio.  Most of the time nice soft music will work, but with my current pup, he likes talk radio.


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08/24/2008 10:11 AM  

we start our puppies in the crates next to where someone is sleeping. Usually the puppy gets to sleep with the person who has the earliest bed-time so everyone in that room gets tucked in at the same time. If the puppy still fusses... I usually run the baby out, then I will let him/her cuddle up next to me on the couch while I work on my laptop... when it is time to go to bed, they get tucked into the kennel next to the bed and we sleep with my meditation tapes playing and a speaker right next to the kennel. Usually this helps the baby sleep through the night, or at least until I have to get up for a potty break. In a couple of really stubborn cases (namely Wachter after we rescued him) he slept in bed with me in one of the soft carriers, at the foot of my bed. Then as he became calmer, I moved the crate to the floor, then to the living room and finally to the laundry room where he now sleeps at night.

The good thing about having multiple dogs, is once the established dogs welcome the puppy, I let them sleep together, the alpha dog then guides and teaches the baby the general household rules, which makes my training job a LOT easier!

Carrie

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08/24/2008 3:50 PM  

Thanks for the replies. I'll try putting crate in my room, havnt done it yet b/c frankly the crate is too big to fit comfortably in my bedroom (have large wire crate w/ petition) so I may have to make some adjustments, or else learn to sleep on the floor by the crate for a while. I'l have to try the music too, who knows mabey she is a music lover.

I'm hoping to get her to learn soon b/c i return to work soon and will have to leaver her,(not in kennel, blocked in kitchen) and I dont want her to be so freaked out with me not there. I'm trying to expose her gradually to being alone for periods of time.

Thanks again and anymore tips you think of that worked for you let me know


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08/25/2008 10:41 AM  
We have Nova's crate in the bedroom with us and I had to sleep on the floor for the first 3 or four nights in front of the crate. We then weaned her off of us being there by lessening the length of time on the floor. Her crate is the plastic kind with a solid top, so she wouldn't have been able to see us if we just placed it next to the bed.

Being that your crate is metal and open on all sides, perhaps she would feel more secure if you covered some of the sides with a blanket and left the top open so she could see you?

Our crate training method went like this: (now mind you, this is our first puppy and we are not dog training geniuses by any means!) Throughout the day when she started to fall asleep, we would put her in the crate with the door open. I would give her treats and pet her until she fell asleep and when she woke up she would come right out. After she got the hang of that after a couple times, we would give treats, pet her and close the door just before she passed out and open it right after she woke up and before she would start whining. Then we would leave the door closed after she woke up for longer and longer periods (meaning seconds really at first). If she whined I would wait until she stopped before I let her out. We just progressed from there.

She is 12 weeks old now and we still give her treats when she goes into the kennel. She has slept through the night since she was 10 weeks and doesn't hardly squeek in there at all anymore, unless she is awake and we are leaving - then she complains.

Hope this helps a bit!
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08/25/2008 1:36 PM  
Polar Bear has some great points... which reminds me that during the day.. ALL doggie toys, blankets and other paraphernalia that are not being used are stored in an open crate that the dog can go in and out of freely. The crates in our house are "kid free" zones, which means when the dog is in the crate, then that means they are tired and don't want to be played with anymore so leave fuzzy alone until he/she comes out. This makes the crate a safe place instead of a place of punishment.

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08/25/2008 1:58 PM  
Are you taking her out every 2 hours after she has been crated to pee?
I have found that they really can't hold it all night until sometime after 3 months old and closer to 4 months old. When they start to cry that they have to go (this is a great sign)and you ignore them and they go in the crate you not only set back crate training but also housebreaking.

Francine


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08/25/2008 11:32 PM  

Thanks again for all the replies, last night was a bit better but not much. Yeah i take her out every couple hours to potty, and i pick up her food and water couple hours before our bed time. Its hard to tell when her whine is for the bathroom or attention, and i dont want to let her out for whining for attention so im trying to use a can w/ pennies in it. I ignore her when i come into area, back faceing her, shake the can to get her attention and make her stop for a sec then open crate and take her out. Not sure if thats good or not but well see.

The other problem with both the crate and house breaking is she doesnt seem to be "into" food. its hard to reward her with treats nothing seems to take her fancy yet. She will eat anything if i hand it to her but she dosnt seem to have any favorite one she will go crazy for so its not associating with her well when i try to give her a treat and praise. I keep getting these small un warned 2-3 drop squirt pees, like she is marking territory sometimes.


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08/26/2008 7:14 AM  

Be patient with her, she is still just a baby and it sometimes takes awhile to get them adjusted.  I use verbal praise and lot's of it when my youngster goes outside to potty.  He is just 3 mos old and does pretty good except when he is playing and doesn't want to stop and be bothered with going outside to do his business.  So, I really have to watch him during play session with his big sisters.  Just remember puppies will need to pee after eating, playing, drinking or sleeping.

My pup also did not start sleeping through the night until he was about 10 weeks old.  When I say sleeping through the night that is somewhat relative as he will still get me up at 4:30 am to go pee, and he always needs to pee.  Then we are up again at 6:30 am to eat.  So, I get up and feed the pack and put them out for a while.  After they come in my youngster plays and then falls asleep again.  If it is the weekend, I usually will take advantage and try to go back to sleep for another hour. 

One other question, do you go to bed at the same time every night and is that when you put your pup to bed?  Another suggestion, when it is approaching the pups bedtime (hopefully about the same time every night), take him out for a final potty time. I usually stay outside and let my furkids prowl for about 30 minutes (this gives my pup plenty of time to do his business and burn off any leftover energy from the day).  Then it is time to go in and go to bed.  The big girls get in their beds and I put my pup in his crate.  I usually sit on the bed next to his crate and let him settle down and go to sleep (not usually too long, about 5 minutes).  Then I go do whatever I want until it is my bedtime (usually about an hour later).  I will always get the pup up again right before I climb in bed (not making a big deal and I carry him), and take him out to the backyard, and he pees again.  Then I pick him up immediately after peeing (don't allow any play time) and carry him back to his crate.  He always goes right back to sleep.  The first week or so we were up every 2 hours, but then he started sleeping until 4:30.

Good luck!!


Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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08/26/2008 8:03 AM  
Bregon,4 months old, sleeps in our room with no kennel. We were up last night at 12:30,2:30 and then at 6:00 for pee pee runs. I think the a/c gave him a little chill. I crate train during the day with the door open and closed.
IMO it takes about a month for them to fully accept the crate and being alone. Hang in there. It will be over before you know it. And when you get your next puppy you'll swear this one was much easier to train.
Francine


"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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08/27/2008 7:54 PM  
I agree with everyone that said to move the crate to the room where you sleep. Also try to keep the same night time routine going with her too. For example when I got my puppy I would usually turn my music low on while I was getting ready for bed, put him in his crate and turn on a small light in the bed room (twinkle lights that where around my window...not too bright). It was usually the same routine every night...I didn't really plan it that way it's just the way it was. He was always really good about going to sleep. Now whenever he maybe isn't settling so well I turn on the music low and plug those hypnotic twinkly light is and he's gone. :D I don't know maybe it doesn't have anything to do with it but it seems to work for us.
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