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jonnyp1423User is Offline
Versailles. KY

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08/26/2007 2:07 PM  

Is this traing the same? I want my dog first and foremost to work for me in the field, but may also want to run him in some field trials. I am a newbee and  trying to find the best training for my dog.

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Jonathan

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08/28/2007 2:14 AM  
I can't tell you exact details. However I can tell you this. Hunting is what you want, Field Trials are what the judges want.

To elaborate: While hunting if you want them to break on shot, thats fine. Retrieve to a certain area then keep hunting thats fine. Whatever best fits your situation is how you train him. While doing tests and trials there is a certain standard of processes the dog will need to do and know to win/pass(e.g., Retrieve to hand, Steady to wing shot and fall, Honor, etc). Specially in trials where your dog is competing against other dogs.

Working for you in the field is something that will be formed off the field. Its the trust and bond he builds with you that will make him want to work for you. Teaching him what you want and how you want it to be done is another. Most hunters would be satisfied with just having a dog steady to flush and retrieves. But there are a seldom few that teach and test there dogs way beyond the limit. If you decide to take that route. I would look for someone in your area that has enough experience to train you and help you train your dog.

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08/29/2007 7:00 PM  
Posted By jonnyp1423 on 08/26/2007 2:07 PM

Is this traing the same? I want my dog first and foremost to work for me in the field, but may also want to run him in some field trials. I am a newbee and  trying to find the best training for my dog.

Thanks,

Jonathan

No, the training is somewhat different. Most hunters teach a dog to stay closer & check back often, for trials you encourage run(range). Field trials want a very forward big running dog, especially in All-Age. A Gun Dog should also be forward, but not as much as an AA dog, in horseback trials you really need a dog that moves out well. You want a dog that handles well. He shouldn't be just running, but actively seeking objectives/likely cover w/o much handler guidance except for when you need to turn him. When training for FT, I try to keep the dog ahead & not let it yo-yo(repeatedly return to me). I always send it off (release it) to a certain whistle.

You need to teach it to turn at 300 or better yds out w/o coming back to you, I start the turn commands very young, so as their confidence & range grows, they know the commands & will handle well w/o having to call them in to me. I basically just change my direction to the left or right while giving a command....puppy most always follow your change & move to the front of you. When training an older dog a cc helps a lot with this. A FT dog needs to be conditioned well & be able to run 30 min (or 60 min if you run AF) w/o slowing down or tiring/pacing itself at all. It's best to be able to train off quads or horses, so you can keep the dog forward but you can train off foot also. I rarely have access to either & do pretty well in trials.

You can run trials & hunt, a good dog that handles well can do both, I hunt all my FT dogs.
Upper level hunt test dogs and field trial dogs do need to be steady to wing and shot, many hunters don't require their dogs steady as Justin pointed out, but many do. My retired & non-comp dogs are steady......I prefer them that way for safety reasons (no dogs getting in the way of a shot) as I hunt public land a lot and usually take several people out with me. There's a lot more to it, I will try to answer any question! Try contacting a local FT club and going to an event to watch, they can be quite fun & exciting. Good luck!!

jonnyp1423User is Offline
Versailles. KY

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09/16/2007 3:28 PM  
Looking to buy a used e-collar in working condition if any one has one to sell let me know.

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Jonathan
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09/17/2007 8:03 AM  
You might check online at the "Collar Clinic". Just Google it.

Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.

Bruce Shaffer
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