vcgsp08
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| 05/15/2008 3:17 PM |
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HEY EVERYONE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND YOU TELL ME IS IT A PURE BREED? AKC IS NOT DOING ANY TESTING AND GOING TO LET IT SLIDE AS A GSP HOW DO YOU AS GSP OWNERS FEEL???
CLICK ON LINK BELLOW
http://littlehunterkennels.com/?page_id=106
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DesertRoseKennel
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| 05/15/2008 3:22 PM |
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Besides the fact that yellow (lemon) is strictly forbidden per breed standard, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to suspect yellow lab in the dog. At best it's a faulty recessive gene. I sure wouldn't be proudly advertising it. My two cents...
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"Our dogs are bred to be champion hunters who sleep on the bed"
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Petra
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| 05/16/2008 12:16 PM |
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| The dam of this dog is questionable but more questioning is that she lived next door to a yellow Lab at the time of her heat cycle with this litter, also why does she want to reg this dog ? to breed? know matter what the reasons are that this dog is yellow , a responsable GSP breeder, would not breed it. I'am I wrong? |
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wgspr rescue
Milwaukee, WI
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| 05/16/2008 2:23 PM |
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| That is a lemon/white field pointer if I ever saw one...ashame they are passing him off as GSP and docked his tail. I think that is purebred pointer. I have one that looks very much like this with full tail as is breed standard. |
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Lisa C. Rossman
WI GSP Rescue, Inc (wgspr.com)
"Until there are none, rescue just one!"
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DesertRoseKennel
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| 05/16/2008 9:47 PM |
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Interesting, do you have personal knowledge of that Petra? Wow. And you are exactly right. No responsible breeder would have that dog still intact - as you can see he is in one of the photos. |
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"Our dogs are bred to be champion hunters who sleep on the bed"
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Somer
Houston, TX
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| 05/17/2008 2:04 PM |
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Posted By wgspr rescue on 05/16/2008 2:23 PM
That is a lemon/white field pointer if I ever saw one...ashame they are passing him off as GSP and docked his tail. I think that is purebred pointer. I have one that looks very much like this with full tail as is breed standard.
On the website it says he weighs 70lbs. I'm not really familiar with field pointers but I'd assume it's very rare to have a 70lb one. Also, I don't think there is any white on that dog. Looks solid yellow to me.
They should just neuter him and be done with it. *takes mental note to never get a pup from that kennel/person* |
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wgspr rescue
Milwaukee, WI
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| 05/20/2008 2:13 PM |
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Jim is my second pointer, he goes 72 lbs. Tracker was liver/white, and he was approx. same size. Some call them American Field Pointers, others refer to them as Bench pointers. All I know is they have excellent dispositions and great attitudes about life in general. They are BIG runners in the field, but big babies in the house. |
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Lisa C. Rossman
WI GSP Rescue, Inc (wgspr.com)
"Until there are none, rescue just one!"
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wgspr rescue
Milwaukee, WI
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| 05/20/2008 2:58 PM |
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Ahhh pix of his face reveal LAB EYES! There is no way that dam and sire could have produced a dog like this, as claimed. |
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Lisa C. Rossman
WI GSP Rescue, Inc (wgspr.com)
"Until there are none, rescue just one!"
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KDTsGSPs
MI
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| 05/21/2008 1:02 AM |
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| I have personally seen the cross of a GSP with a Lab that a lady had from a neighbors dog getting hers. She docked their tails & they all looked like chubby GSPs, but they were mixed with a Chocolate Lab. She was VERY honest about it & told everyone they were NOT pure bred. She made sure they would all be spayed or neutered. As far as I'm concerned this is a Yellow Lab GSP cross & NONE of them should be registered or left in-tact! JMO! |
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Rebecca
KDTs GSPs where the history making GSP (AM/CAN CH, UKC UWPS UWPCHX GRCH KDT's Blazin' Bleugras JH RN CGC) lives!
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rugeruser
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| 05/21/2008 5:48 AM |
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I, for one, will probably never again register a "purebred" GSP litter with AKC. If they will allow the addition of a yellow lab into the gene pool of our beloved GSPs, then I, for one, will not deal with AKC. My puppy buyers will understand!! |
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pixie bee
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| 05/21/2008 1:23 PM |
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Maybe it's time to switch another regisrty?
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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MOOSE1
Fruitport, MI
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| 05/21/2008 5:20 PM |
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| Go UKC! |
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Rajah-APBT- USUV UMJCH Flying High Rajah-TDI Certified
Phoenix-GSP- USJCH UWP GRCH BNJ Shooters Rising Phoenix-CGC Tested
Cody- GSP- AKC/CKC CH UKC UWP GRCH Legacyk n Estate Sunray Minor FDJ CGC Tested
Tucson-UJJ CH Legacyk FlwrCrk The Old Peublo
Rumor-UMJ URO1 GRCH BNJ Rumor Has It-RN RD CGC NA II
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Almost Heaven GSP
Springfield, WV
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| 05/21/2008 6:33 PM |
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I think you will find that ALL of the registries will only push things so far. Just look at these fine examples from the other side of the pond in the "Pure Blood" lands....
Click on the "LAATSTE NIEUWS" tab on the left and scroll half way down the page to the nice Dobie Looking Shorthair Pups....
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Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.
Bruce Shaffer
Almost Heaven GSP's
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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DesertRoseKennel
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| 05/22/2008 7:10 AM |
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Holy cow. Wish I could read the language well enough to know what was said. A little obvious it was more than GSP genetics at work on those pups Bruce...
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pixie bee
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| 05/22/2008 7:27 AM |
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What registry is it?
Scary!
Buyer beware.
I can just imagine what goes on behind closed doors.
Makes the split between show and field seem a bit unimportant.
Francine
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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Almost Heaven GSP
Springfield, WV
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| 05/22/2008 10:08 AM |
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Pixie,
FCI. They are probably not in the Zuchtbuch, but more likely the general Registry and Registered as Wurttemberger Shorthairs. "The Wurttemberger's were registered as a variant in the first three volumes of the Zuchtbuch 1897-99 with no subsequent listing afterward. It is possible they are in the all breed German dog registry."
Interestingly; Wurttemberg is a state within close proximity to Thuringia where the Dobie was
developed. Googling Doberman Breed Development, many sites on the history of the Dobe breed state something along the lines of: "In 1880, Herr Dobermann began his breeding program with Thuringian Shepherds, early Rottweilers and German Shepherds. He visited many dog shows and breeding kennels to find the particular
characteristics he wanted for his foundation stock. German Pinschers, Black and Tan Terriers, Weimaraners, Greyhounds, and the German Shorthair Pointers all contributed to
his early breed stock."
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Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.
Bruce Shaffer
Almost Heaven GSP's
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pixie bee
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| 05/22/2008 1:52 PM |
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So, they are not registered as DKs?
This is good.
This kennel is in the Netherlands, not the "Pure Blood" country of DKs. Do the Nertherlands import DKs from Germany?
Nice to get a bit of history on a different breed.
Not sure of the real story behind this colorful litter but it sure does remind buyers to keep an eye out for fakes.
I recently switched my D litter purchase to another breeder because I was afraid of hanky-panky and the obviously poor choice of dams.
Good breeders can turn bad, fast.
Francine
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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tchrisman
Shapleigh, ME
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Almost Heaven GSP
Springfield, WV
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| 05/28/2008 11:37 AM |
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Todd,
This Litter/Pup is NAVHDA registered from what I understand from VCGSP08 and others on other boards.
It isn't just the AKC.... |
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Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.
Bruce Shaffer
Almost Heaven GSP's
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