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02/28/2013 5:35 PM  

Hi all,

Ellie my 4 month old love to play fetch and is great at retrieving indoors.  We use all kinds of stuff from balls, to her stuffed animals and different throwing dummies with different scent on each one.  She loves the dummies and we put them away when done so she cant just play with those and we only bring one out at a time.  The problem is when we go outside she will run to them, pounce them and run around but not bring them back.  Is it just beacuse its outside and so many things going on and she is excited.  I do try to get her out as much as possible for walks and play.  On weekends we go for walks at the game area a few miles away.    Any help would be great.  I love this dog and wish I would have gotten a GSP long ago.

-jeff and Ellie

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02/28/2013 6:26 PM  
Keep working with her outside, but do NOT chase after her if she does not bring the oy back. It is her choice to keep the game going, not your. The only way she gets to keep it going is to bring the toy back to you. If she doesn't bring it back, then the game stops. No fusing at her or corrections, just stop the game. It won't take her long how to keep the game going. I even take a chair out in the yard and sit down and don't get up. It take something to read to in case the dog decides not to bring the toy back for a while. She will get it, just be patient. Remember she is stil a baby and the world is new and exciting. Get her out and introduce her to all the sites and sounds and have fun. This is the best time to socialize her you will ever have.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

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03/03/2013 5:32 PM  
I had a similar issue with my pup who is roughly the same age. I bought him one of those fake quails with the plastic head...He absolutely loves it...and to keep it that way i only let him play with it outside...as soon as i started doing that he would see me pick up the quail and he knew we were going outside to play...after two or three times of going out to play with the quail....i could throw the quail as far as i could and he watches it the whole way and brings it back every time...I think its mainly get her something that she really likes and only let her have it when your outside...that way her interest in actually picking it up and bringing it to you to throw again will be much greater...i found they lose interest in things that seem "easy" to them very fast...so changing it up on them as much as possible is working for me....hope this helps!
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03/03/2013 5:34 PM  

 excellent advice texas belle

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03/05/2013 9:30 PM  
I hope I am not hijacking this thread - would you guys give similar advice to a dog that is a bit older, namely 10 months? Our dog loves to catch the flying ball/disc/whatever outside, but will just trot around with it for a while, then drop and go do something else (or start chewing it). I've tried waiting, but he doesn't seem to think to bring it back to me. Should I start working on it indoors first, where distractions are lower? And how would I make the game more interesting if our dog seems to get more into chewing the object than bringing it back for another throw?
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03/05/2013 10:00 PM  
What are you using for him to fetch? Does he do ok inside? I cured my girl of what you are describing by using a plastic bumper and the chair in the middle of the yard. When they do the wandering around and chewing they are often trying to get you to chase. Even if you get up and go take the toy that is attention. Try keeping your tush in the chair and totally ignore him when he doesn't bring it back. That is why I also have a book to read. Don't even look at him. As far as you are concerned he doesn't exist. If he hasn't brought it back in 10 minutes, don't say a word to him get up and pick your stuff up and go in. Not recognition of him at all. Dogs hate being ignored. My guess is it will only take a couple of times for him to start bringing it back to you.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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03/05/2013 10:29 PM  
Texas Belle, thank you for the great advice. Oh. I am guilty of going and picking up the toy when he has dropped it and is just sniffing around, and overall constantly watching him (instead of ignoring). I need to stop that and do what you suggest. I've been throwing a plastic round disc, and a tennis-ball like rubber ball. Our dog does slightly better inside, meaning he is more likely to bring the toy (ball) back to me. But come to think of it, I often just sit down on the couch when we play fetch at the house, and do read a book/magazine if he doesn't bring it back to me. No wonder it works better inside then! Maybe I am missing the obvious, but - why did you use a plastic bumper?
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03/05/2013 10:41 PM  
Bumpers are used because of their durability.

I avoid tennis balls because of the sand in the fibers of the balls.

If you want something Cliche they also make bird dummies for your "Hunting" dog.

http://www.lcsupply.com/Dead-Fowl-Trainers/departments/149/

If you have no plans on hunting this dog I wouldnt worry about proper retrieving etiquette, especially at 4 months. Just let this puppy be a puppy, mess around, do the head shake, letting the toy go half way which sends the ball flying.

Once puppy has matured a little he will start bringing stuff back.

Right now I wouldnt chase puppy around but when puppy does drop the toy just go get it and dont make a fuss about it being dropped.
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