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02/28/2013 11:20 AM  

Hi Everyone!

Here's Remy's story- I will condense it as much as possible.

My husband found a gsp at work, he works for an apartment management company.  Remy (that is what we named him, short for Remington) was found on a stairway landing and would not come down.  He had to be carried.  No one in the building claimed him, and neighbors near by said they had never seen him at the property before. (The property is completely gated, so we are thinking he may have come from there)  My husband brought him home at lunch, and I immediately posted ads everywhere I could to find his owner.  No one claimed him.  I just don't understand why someone would just abandon a gorgeous dog like him! Uggh!

He was very thin when we brought him home, and his behavior was a little odd.  I don't know how else to describe it.  He was very friendly, but not at all housebroken.  I thought he was probably around 6months old.  I knew he was a sweetheart right off the bat, but he didn't seem to know any simple commands, or even the word no.  He didn't want to be left outside in the yard, he wanted in right away.  In the begining, he was even afraid to be alone outside. I don't know if that is because someone that lived in the apt. complex had him and never took him out or what.?  He had no social skills, was timid with my other two dogs,(but happy to see them) but not outright fearful of them.  The first couple of days were rough with the housebreaking, he wouldn't go potty outside, then he would come right back in and immediately pee on the floor.  Even right in front of us!  I didn't know what to think, so I just started from scratch.  Kennel, etc.  He did seem to pick it up quickly though.  After about a week, he was almost housebroken.  So in that way, I knew he was quite smart, but in other ways, I wasn't so sure!(ha ha)  He learned how to play from my other dogs, first inside, then became more comfortable with playing outside.  It has taken a couple of weeks, but he seems to really enjoy play time now.  All I can say is it was as if he had had absolutely no play interaction before what so ever, either with people or other dogs.  He has also done well with our cats, he is just very curious about them. 

He has been with us for 3 1/2 weeks now, and I have to say he is by far the SWEETEST dog I think I have ever seen.  He is so affectionate, it is unreal.  All he wants to do is be near us and snuggle, climb in our laps, etc.  We did kennel him at night at first, but once he was doing better with potty training, my husband gave up on the kennel at night due to the crying.  He does well now out with the other dogs at night, and just sleeps.  He does have some separation anxiety issues though, and since the incident with the distruction and cat food, he is now kenneled when we leave.  He got over the gates, up the stairs and opened the cat food bin, and proceeded to gorge himself.  We didn't know right away, as all we saw was the shredded boxes he found, and books, and stuffed animals be brought downstairs, but didn't shered.  After I cleaned up all the mess, I went outside with the dogs and noticed his stomach suddenly about 4 times its normal size.  I couldn't help but panic.  I know larger breed dogs are susceptible to bloat, but at the time I didn't know what he had gotten into specifically, so the options as to what was wrong were neumerous.  My initial fear was that he ingested something that was causing some sort of blockage.  Thank god that wasn't the case.  I ran him to the emg vet who said that his vitals looked ok,(so it wasn't bloat) but to just watch him closely.  Being that he was a "stray", if he was in need of major medical treatment,(which I couldn't afford) if I couldn't pay for it, he would just be put to sleep.  Uggh!  I allready knew that there would be absolutely no way I would allow that to happen.  I took him home and immediately sent emails out to a couple of gsp and bird dog rescues in my area for help.  They were both wonderful, and assisted me with some great tips as to how to help him.  I then realized that it was the cat food he had ingested, and quite a lot of it, too.  The rescues recommended feeding him canned pumpkin to help him pass whatever he had eaten.  It did work, after a very nerve wracking day or so.  I have to say, I have two other dogs and they have never opened the cat food bin, so that is a new one to me!  The rescues said gsp's are notorious for getting into things. (A lesson learned) Thankfully he came through without trouble, and was back to normal in a few days. Again, Uggh!

My son fell in love with him almost immediately and begged to keep him if we didn't find his owner.  I told him 3 dogs was just too much to handle since our dogs are inside and outside dogs.  Even my husband seemed to fall for Remy pretty quickly, which is saying something since he has always been more of a cat person than a dog person! I did some research on the breed, and the more I read, the more torn I was.  I have one mutt that is about 40lbs and short.  Another that is a Australlian Kelpie/German Shep mix that is about 70lbs and very, very high energy.  I didn't know if I could handle another high energy breed.  I have only met a few gsp's, and the ones I have met were just as active and obnoxious as my shep. mix.  Remy though, is quite a bit calmer than my other dog, surprisingly.  I really tried hard not to become attached because I was the only one who was against another dog, but needless to say it didn't work!  He is actually everything I wanted temperment wise in a dog, when we got our other big dog.  So now we have three dogs! Uggh-with love!!  

It turns out he is probably around 8-10 months old the vet said. I took him yesterday and had him neutered. By the way, I have never seen a more whiny puppy at his age, ever!! (is this a breed trait?) The spay/neuter clinic called and asked me to pick him up early because he was upsetting himself in the kennel after he woke up.  I could actually hear him while I spoke to them on the phone, much louder than the other dogs! I also opted for pain med. for him to take home because he is such a baby.  I haven't ever had to do that with my other boys when they were fixed, and they were just fine. But this one screams like your hurting him when you are simply cleaning mud off his paws!  Today, our biggest issue is he freaks out with the elizabethan collar on, so I have had to watch him constantly.

 So here is where I could really use some imput about him.  As I said, I haven't had a lot of experience with this breed, but I have done some research, and read through a lot of forum posts.  Also, I grew up with a cocker, and a cocker/britany mix, different breeds, but still hunting/bird dogs. Remy sometimes seems very smart, and other times, makes me wonder a little  He learned housebreaking quickly, can clearly open bins when he wants to, learned to sit fairly quickly, etc.  This morning he went outside and got his bone, brought it in, and went straight to the kennel on his own.  He has learned that is the routine when we leave. I was amazed!!  But other things are a bit curious.  I haven't ever had a dog that didn't know how to fectch just by instinct.  With Remy, we are having to teach him.  Also, when we are trying to fetch with him, I can tell he isn't focused on the ball like my other dogs are.  With them, they do not ever take their eyes off the ball when playing fetch! Also, for a hunting dog, he doesn't show any interest in watching what is going on around him.  We live near lakes, and there are birds and geese constanly around, flying overhead, etc. but he shows no interest at all.  My other dog who is a hearding dog, watches the birds and geese constanly, and loves to chase the birds out of the backyard.  Remy seems like he could care less.  Again, I know he is smart, I have seen it, clearly, but some of his behaviors are a little curious.  Is that normal, or is that more likely because of how he may have been raised from a young pup?  Are they stubborn by nature?  Everything I have read says they are easy to teach and train.  Would I be better off teaching him to fetch with something other than a ball?  Any suggestions as to what would hold is attention? Or any imput in general.  Thanks in advance!!

 



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02/28/2013 11:52 AM  
What an amazing story! I don't really know how to teach fetch mine just love it! As for being a bird dog and watching tweety birds mine don't pay attention to birds flying by... now ducks or geese on a pod or the ground they will point and squirrels, they love them! They are a smart breed, they can seem stubborn only because if your training periods are too long or you stay on one thing too long they will grow bored...

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02/28/2013 3:43 PM  
That is an amazing story. Shorthairs are smart and soft. As such some people interpret that behavior as stubborn. Usually they are bored and not stubborn or they aren't sure what you want them to do and are worried about making mistakes. Shorthairs thrive with a consistent routine and a job. So for mine they are always getting mini training sessions mixed in with everyday routines like eating, play time, etc. I just break down anything I want to teach them into small pieces and teach the pieces. You can put the pieces together after they learn the pieces. I also play games once they learn something where I try to trick my dogs into making mistakes. They love that game. As for retrieving that will come in time. I suspect Remy is still getting used to his new home. I would let him watch you throw the ball for your other dogs and he will pick it up. Then when he does start showing an interest try the retrieving again. He probably was never asked or shown how to ply with balls and just doesn't understand what you want him to do. At 8 to 10 months he may have been dumped by a hunter because he was introduced to guns incorrectly and is now gun shy. Lot's of shorthairs come into rescue for this reason at about that age. If you are thinking about hunting with him you need to check if this an issue. It can be corrected, but it takes time and patience. He may also show a sensitivity to all loud noises including fire crackers or thunder. Watch for that as it could stress him allot. If he is anxious about noise things can be done to help, just ask if you need that info.

Good luck and God Bless you for adopting this boy. I think you will find that it was not a mistake. Shorthairs are a wonderful, devoted and loving breed. And always know that we will gladly help you get over any rough spots.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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02/28/2013 3:53 PM  
Thanks for taking this boy into your home.

My boy is much more affectionate and whiny when he doesn't get his way than our female is. And at 8 to 10 months they go through a "stupid" period where they forget everything you taught them, which may explain the "not so bright" moments.

Good luck with him and post some pix so we can all admire him :)

Joce and Rich
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02/28/2013 6:44 PM  

Are you going to Keep him ?

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03/01/2013 9:33 AM  

Update on Remy-

We finally did find out where he came from.  His owners moved out of the apt. complex the day he was found, and just left him in front of the door on the upstairs landing.  The management co. was able to enter the apt. and it was awful. They probably didn't ever take him outside to potty, the floors and carpets were completely destroyed.  No wonder he thought he was supposed to potty inside! 

As to if he will be used for hunting, no. We like to hike, camp, etc. Our dogs are just family dogs, but I do bike ride with our other dog Axle, and I hope to teach Remy.  He does not thus far seem to be afraid of loud noises though.  Time will tell. 

And as to keeping him, yes thats the plan!  I just don't think we could part with him.    I do have a couple of quick questions though, kind of regarding the behavior of the breed.  I know all dogs are different.  He likes to growl/talk when he greets you or brings something to you, do most of them do that? just curious.  We think its adorable.  Also, what would be a good age to teach him to start bike riding with us?  I am a little nervous to start too early, he just seems so young.  Or should I say acts so young.  One more!  We have a play structure in thre backyard that our other big one Axle likes to play on, and Remy really wants to go for it, but its about 5ft up and I don't want him to hurt himself getting down.  Again, thanks!!

 



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03/01/2013 10:30 AM  
He is beautiful! Our GSP Luna is 9 months old, she is VERY vocal, so if you'd ask me, that's normal. She used to get so excited when she would eat that she would whine while she ate, and could hardly contain herself. She barks when she is overly excited to see us, or when guests come over. She will bark and then trot away in the direction she wants them to go. She also makes strange noises as she chews on her rope toy. As far as the bike goes, i think we started her little by little at about 4 months to get her used to running alongside it. My boyfriend will take her now for no more than 2 miles, with plenty of breaks in between, although she doesn't know when she should take breaks yet, so we have to force her to stop. She is still growing, so we don't want to be too aggressive with that yet.
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03/01/2013 10:50 AM  
It Looks like that pup is lucky to find you. Looks like you will give him a good home. You did some research and found this forum and asks questions about the dog. That says alot about you and your family. Im glad you will give him a good home. Congradulations. GSPs are the best Dogs

Rick
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03/01/2013 11:18 AM  
My Humphrey is also very vocal, he makes sort of "Rowr!" noises whicih sound like growls but aren't, and he also whines a lot. So I think that's normal for a GSP male! Chelsea isn't as talkative; she only barks or "rowrs" at me when Im' being too stupid to do what she wants and she's trying to 'splain it to me!
Welcome and thanks for taking Remi. Sounds like his old owners should have been run out of town on a rail.
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03/01/2013 12:30 PM  
So the talking is normal. I always think one of the sounds is like Chewy the wookie in Star Wars, but they have a large number of sounds they make. My neighbors called me one day thinking one of my dogs was hurt and when I went out to check on them they were expressing their frustration with a squirrel that was teasing them about 12 feet up in a tree. My dogs are known by the neighborhood kids and the dogs that make funny noises. And girls can be as talkative as the boys.

As for the biking, I would wait until he gets back to his full weight and settles in a bit, and then I think you could start taking him on short bike rides. You just don't want to do any distance until his growth plates close and on the males that is usually about 1.5 years old. It is the repetitive motion on hard surfaces or enforced jumping that cause problems. What they do on their own is fine. As for the playing on the backyard play structure as long as he is doing it on his own I wouldn't worry about it. Shorthairs are climbers and jumpers naturally and will find a way to do that on their own with our without the play structure. I have one that used to scare me to death on hikes because she would go right up the side of a cliff and jump down on her own. She go the nickname of mountain goat because of her climbing ability. She is now 8 years old and still has perfect hips and elbows.

What a sad story about the original owners. He is one lucky dog. Be patient with him on the training and he will get there fast. Shorthairs love to learn and they are very smart. They also desperately want to please. They also make excellent hiking companions. That is how I originally got into shorthairs. Now I compete with mine in several areas and also breed them from time to time. I started with one and now have 4 and will be adding a 5th probably within the next year when I breed my baby girl.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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03/01/2013 12:57 PM  

Thank you guys again so much for the replies.  I greatly appreciate the info! 



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