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cb130103
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| 02/12/2013 2:13 PM |
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I got Drake at 12 weeks, and for all I know he had never been in water before.
At 14 weeks, I took him to a pond with a friend's labrador. It was December, so it was pretty cold out. After watching the Lab swimming and retrieving, Drake would bark and whine and he dipped his front paws in the water twice, then wanted nothing to do with it. Once, I picked him up and set him down in about a foot of water and he swam back to shore. It was nothing dramatic or freightening to him. He would not come back around the water for the rest of the day.
From then on when hiking, whenever we would come around water he would not go near it and was very hesitant.
Yesterday, right at 6 months old, was the first time since then he went around it, and again, it was very cold outside. It was with a friend's GSP, Mally. Mally was retrieving and swimming, and Drake was barking and whining so loud to get in the water, but it was like he had a mental block. Then, only one time, he got so wound up, he ran and dove in the water, took about 3 strokes, then sped back to sure! I was so ecstatic. Unfortunately, he would not do it again no matter how much coaxing. About 4 times I threw him in and he would swim back and have his tail wagging, excited, but would not willingly go back in on his own.
My question is, have any of you other GSP owners had a pup that came out of his shell with water later in life passed 6 months old? I know the breeder should have had a kiddie pool for him to introduce him to it. Is there anything I could do now to promote it?
NOTE: When I bathe him, he just stands with me while I take a shower, then I just soap him up and scrub him, then hold him in my arms directly under the shower head, and he is totally relaxed and almost goes to sleep and has a good time! |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 02/12/2013 3:15 PM |
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| He just needs a bit of patience and some warmer water. I would wait until weather and water warms up and then take him to the lake. If you can find a friend with a water dog to go too that is great. If not, I would go in with him. Don't force it, but encourage him and get him excited. If he as a toy he loves see if you can get him to go in the shallows after it. I wouldn't expect this to appen all at once, but keep taking him back and encourage him. He will get there. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
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everbell Kanata, ON
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| 02/12/2013 3:46 PM |
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Bo wouldn't go into the water until he was 4 years old. I think you have LOTS of time  |
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Joce and Rich Bogart and Shiraz (GSPs) Roxane (RIP: 1995-2009) and Tiger Lily (Cats) The Everbell Adventures |
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mckee.lucie Seattle, WA
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| 02/12/2013 7:08 PM |
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Our 2 1/2 year old female Luna didn't go "swimming" until she was probably around 7-8 months old. She would play in the water mid-body deep until then splashing around but never actually took the plunge for it to swim. Then suddenly one day with another dog fetching sticks in the water she gave it a try and hasn't turned back since! We live in the Seattle area and are warm water swimming opportunities are really limited and only range from about late April/May to end of September. Now we can't keep her out of the water...in warm weather I wouldn't stress, your little guy will eventually get more brave and venture further on his own. |
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RyanGSP
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| 02/12/2013 7:29 PM |
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Psh I wouldnt go in the water either in this cold. My 7 year old wont even go into the water in this cold unless there is a bird in the water and hes a water nut. Try in the summer. If you arent willing to get in then dont make the dog. Dont make him swim either. ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS COLD. how would you like it if I threw you into a freezing cold lake and made you swim back. |
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smatulewicz Michigan
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| 02/12/2013 8:36 PM |
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| We live on Lake Superior and Bella as a pup shocked us by sneaking in during February. She was thrilled at first and then her face read utter regret. I was worried when it warmed up she would be hesitant to go back in, but she wasn't. Since Superior is still greatly cold into late Spring and early Summer, it wasn't until we went to GA for vacation that she "swam" (full submerged and not just tummy deep)...the water was warm, I encouraged it (rather than keeping her close to shore), and she was 8 months old. She was very hesitant, despite loving water, to venture where her feet no longer touched. Once she did, and realized it was OK...she was hooked. It helped even more when we got in with her. You're on the right track as well, having dogs that enjoy being in be with you so that your pup can see them having fun. Ultimately, to each his own. I have seen on here others not taking to it until years of age. I wouldn't pay it any mind or try and force it for now. Wait for warmer weather, and keep it fun. |
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Splat Illinois (Northern)
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| 02/13/2013 5:26 AM |
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| mine was older I think over 1 1/2 when he enjoyed it... as a pup we put him in the pool he swam but didn't like it and wouldn't jump in on his own... then we went up to upper michigan on a lake when he was older and he loved it! even jumped off the pier... he will go out and swim to get a stick if you throw it but mostly he likes just running around where he can touch.... at home in the summer we have a kiddie/dog pool and he loves that, will even lay down in it! |
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PCC1968
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| 02/13/2013 8:51 AM |
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My recommendation is to let him get in at his own pace, try to make it fun for him and only try to do it when the weather is warmer.
My GSP (Bodi) was exactly the same way, but I introduced him to it gradually using toys,sticks (what ever he was in the mood to fetch) to keep it fun. He was 3 years old before he actually started actually swimming... The final straw was one warm summer day at the dog park he watched all of the other retrievers out in the pond having fun.... He couldn't handle it any longer and just jumped right in! Bodi now duck hunts with me and has retrieved at least 20 birds including a pair of greater canadians... I never thought my GSP would be my duck hunting buddy too! |
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ckckla
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keanmu Ontario, Canada
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| 02/13/2013 10:13 AM |
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Baira (RIP) was nearly 18 months before she ventured into the water, then I couldn't keep her out, even when there was ice on it. Leos was in the water from the day we got him at 16 weeks old. Kassi has yet to try the water, she's been in up to her knees but no further as it was cold. We have a pond!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait for them to get swimming. |
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Rose
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| 02/13/2013 8:43 PM |
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| 4 years, and it required the assistance of warm , bouyant salt water, a shallow slope going in, and a toy he could not resist. Ours will not go near cold water. |
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deadeye1210 Exeter, PA
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| 02/14/2013 8:34 PM |
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| my pup is 4 months...he has not seen the warm weather yet...but he loves the tub...has jumped in with me once unannounced haha |
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Max2 Oneonta NY
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| 02/15/2013 4:12 AM |
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| Max 4 yrs also. I never pushed the swimming part with Max. We have a pond & the day I brought max home (7 weeks & 1 day) he fell off the end of the dock into the pond. he came out with my assisstence just a sneezing & I think it may have scared him a little. We only hunt upland birds in swamps & other coverts so didn't mind he was interested in swimming. Then later in his life I thought perhaps for his safety it may be good for him to understand swimming for his safety. Plus seeing all the fun that many on here have with their pup's in the water . |
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cb130103
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| 02/15/2013 12:11 PM |
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| thanks for all of theg reat info everyone! Others please post your experiences |
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gsplover Houston, Tx.
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| 02/15/2013 8:13 PM |
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I don't advocate trying our methods, but it worked for BOTH of our GSP's. I first took Maybrie to the dog park when she was 6 months old. She did so much running around, and it was super hot outside, so she just gravitated towards the swimming hole. She saw others swimming around, and chasing balls into the water, she attempted to do the same. She fell in the first time, and it took her a couple of more trips to the dog park to get comfortable getting in. FINALLY, she pawed at the water a bit, and crouched down and started swimming. She LOVED the water, and would stay in there a good 45 minutes just swimming in circles. Kaido was 8 months old, and he got hot, saw Maybrie swimming, and decided to try it out as well. He too fell in the first time, but unlike Maybrie, he decided to be cool about it and just kept swimming! He doesn't enjoy swimming as much as Maybrie, but neither will pass up a cool water hole on a hot day! We no longer frequent the dog park due to our high prey drives.....from BOTH, including a bunny kill at the dog park, and a kitten kill in our back yard......and numerous squirrels they've chased up the tree, and a predatory drift incident with our own smaller family dog. At the dog park, small -medium size dog (under 35 pounds) = PREY!! Don't take yours to the dog park to learn how to swim!  |
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"He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion." -- Unknown |
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gsplover Houston, Tx.
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| 02/15/2013 8:15 PM |
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If he loves the tub, he'll be a natural in the water! |
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"He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion." -- Unknown |
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RyanGSP
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| 02/16/2013 8:23 AM |
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Gsplover thats actually a great way to get them into the water! They are hot, want to cool down, AND see other dogs having fun in the water. What puppy doesnt want to get left out of that! |
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gsplover Houston, Tx.
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| 02/17/2013 9:58 AM |
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Thanks Ryan GSP.....yes, I agree about the "initiation by association" concept! Lol! I just meant I wish there was another place besides the dog park. We have had several close calls with our two both being attacked, and attacking smaller dogs. Ours were both attacked because they would run like lightening. Other dogs thought a "chase" game was on. Maybrie accidentally ran to fast and too close to another dog's territory and got attacked. Not bitten, never a bite, just pinned down and growled at until the owner removed their dog. My dogs cannot resist a tiny dog. Kaido tried to swim on top of and drown a smaller dog. Ours are NOT dog park safe and I don't trust the other dogs around my dogs. Nothing bad has ever happened to my dogs or the other dogs that were victims of my dogs' prey drive, as there were attentive handlers.....LUCKILY! I'm glad they know how to swim, and wouldn't change the experience of the dog park for the world, but just too chicken to play Russian Roulette!  |
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"He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion." -- Unknown |
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RyanGSP
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| 02/17/2013 10:54 AM |
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Im the same way. I hate dog parks, dogs with temperament issues, owners with no control over their dogs, no idea if other dogs are healthy and the worst is because of the high concentration of dogs the risk of parvo is astronomical. I avoid dog parks at all cost. Instead I usually run my dogs where we hunt until birds start nesting, by then its usually warm enough we take them swimming to some of the local lakes or we head to the rocky mountains and go swimming in some of the mountain rivers. Here is one of our favorite spots. Castle Falls on the West Castle River. The water is cold but you can see the trout in the river and even the dogs jump off the rocks with us, even at the highest jumps the dogs arent far behind when you hit the water. Here is another great spot thats across the road from Castle Falls. Its a mountain lake but gets warm enough to swim in all day. There are steep drops and some points you can wade knee deep as far as 50 yards from shore. There is great camping here and trout fishing. So we can fish while the dogs mess around in the water all day  |
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gsplover Houston, Tx.
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| 02/17/2013 1:28 PM |
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Wow!! That is absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!! We used to live in Colorado, no longer do. We are in Houston, Tx now....HOT!
That looks like SO MUCH FUN!! I remember all the wonderful places we used to hike and bike in Colorado. Lots or really wonderful creeks, but all too cold for us! I bet the dogs did enjoy it though!! Brings back SO many memories! Thanks so much for sharing!
Regarding dog parks. Yes, my breeder cautioned me on the SEVERE problem with Parvo, and said that we could even bring it back to our other dogs, one of which cannot be vaccinated due to her vaccine reaction and the fact that it caused her HOD. So, every time I went, I took a risk. I did it for about 5 months, (only because of their extreme energy level) but by the time they were 11 months old, they were really showing extreme prey drive. They kept to themselves and didn't mingle with the other dogs, they just hunted the massive amount of birds, rabbits, squirrels, and let's not forget the butterflies! So, for the MOST part, I didn't have to worry about them getting attacked....UNLESS they ran too close to a dog that was territorial, OR, they spotted a small dog from afar. Then "game on" for them! Unfortunately, people did not listen to the "smaller dogs on the small dog side" sign. When I wrote to the city and asked who would be liable if my prey happy dog bit into another smaller dog, and they said that I would be. They said the sign to keep smaller dogs on the small dog side was simply a suggestion, and that many families are of the blended family type! (small dog, large dog) so they didn't make any hard and fast rules other than ALL dogs must maintain control of their dogs at all times. After the bunny kill and the kitten kill, and their pack hunt mentality, I no longer trusted THEM!! I could not live with myself if they killed another person's dog. I had also heard of two GSP's getting attacked just after entering the park gates. Supposedly a Saint Bernard was the culprit! We had issues with German Shephards and American Boxers, and Malamutes. One of the GSP's required stitches after the Saint Bernard attacked. It was a great place to go, and several GSP owners, about 6 GSP's in total, which is A LOT, would go up to the park. Our dogs were great together........the others, well, not so much! It was enough to keep us away..sigh. In a perfecdt world, a dog park would be a great place for dogs to run....but we live in the real world!
Please feel free to share more pics!! LOVE THE PICS!
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