Mmac89
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| 02/07/2013 7:38 AM |
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We are looking to move into a new place in a few weeks. The backyard is amazing and would have plenty of space for Reagan and the new pup on the way(no name picked out) and a pool for them to swim in the summer. The biggest problem is the fence is only 4.5 ft tall on two sides. Because we are renting, adding something to the top isn't an option. We really don't want to pass this place up.
We were considering wiring the backyard for an Electric fence. How effective are these?? Would it be enough to prevent Reagan and the new guy from going to the neighbors yard. I know Reagan can jump the fence as it is now. Also how much training is involved when introducing these?
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Splat
Illinois (Northern)
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| 02/07/2013 7:53 AM |
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| I think if you use the e fence with the current fence that is up it will work great... I am assuming you mean the underground e fence for dogs however I bet you could just run hot wire along the top and bottom of the existing fence... |
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keanmu
Ontario, Canada
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| 02/07/2013 8:18 AM |
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I live quite rurally and all the houses around here have an e-fence for the dogs and ALL the dogs stay in their own gardens. With exception to one Rottweiler mix who never has his collar on and wanders around everyones garden. He doesn't seem very friendly. He does run off if we make a noise but he growls at us. I'm getting a bit fed up of seeing him actually and i'm concerned that he may come in the garden when my daughter is outside playing. I am considerng calling the dog warden if he continues coming here.
Anyway.............There was one in the ground around our house but the last tennants took it with them. We are definately getting a new one, as soon as the ground softens up enough to be able to stick a spade in it.
TBH we will never leave them outside alone, even with the fence but it will be nice to not have to watch and call them constantly when we're outside doing something. You know what they are like, constantly off investigating something. |
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kpwlee
Raleigh, NC
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| 02/07/2013 9:00 AM |
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I think an e-fence inside the physical fence will work fine - I wouldn't expect to use it on the new pup until they were 8 mos or more (just an opinion)
Our neighborhood is the same keanmu described. Lots of e-fences and RESPONSIBLE owners - meaning the dogs are properly trained to the fences and rarely left out in the yard for long periods.
It is nice to have them out in the yard with you without the worry they will wander beyond the boundaries. LOL My guy can find lots of mischief and entertainment inside ours  |
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GSPJeta
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| 02/07/2013 9:16 AM |
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My pup got her e fence at 4 months and learned quite quickly. I was really diligent about following her training to the letter and she was trained in 3 weeks. She is now 9 months and never leaves the yard even if another dog walks on the sidewalk (we carry her over the line at walk time).
I have a neighbor who short-cutted the training and their dog comes over to "visit" Jeta every time they are out at the same time. |
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smatulewicz
Michigan
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| 02/07/2013 9:44 AM |
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Pending on your dog's respect of boundaries I would imagine a fence plus a reinforcement efence would be more than sufficient. Your pup, following the older the dog's lead may never even have to wear the collar as she' won't be able to jump the fence early on, and would probably have no desire to if never seen it done. Our In-laws only have a four foot fence and though Bella is a phenomenal jumper, she respects her boundaries. Even when bunnies escape to the other side. Our neighborhood seems anti-privacy fence and we seemed to SHOCK several neighbors at the mention of putting one up. There are a few efences in the neighborhood, but most dogs that get freedom have a chainlink. I think the most important thing is to appropriately train on it to see good results. My dad lived rural for years and bought a fence. Installed it. NEVER trained the dog the right way on it...wasted his money.
We looked into them. For now, Bella respects her yard boundaries, but I am always outside too. We still plan to put up a fence, but I haven't seen anyone here also mention there is an efence style that is not buried, and far more "renter" friendly as you can easily take it with when you go. It sends out a signal in all directions for a full circle or half circle of coverage. For us, we never quite figured out the best place for it to go to give Bella the best coverage....so that is the downside to it. |
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Mmac89
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| 02/07/2013 12:24 PM |
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I am glad to hear they are effective. Reagan has endured apartment life for a year and I want her to have a backyard to play in. One neighbor has kids so I know Reagan won't be tempted to jump that wall as much because she is terrified of kids. I would not put a collar on the puppy and am not worried about him being able to jump it.
If I bought the underground fencing but just ran the wire along the edge of the yard would that work? From what I have read there are flags involved in the training... Would the fact that there is a wall substitute for the flags?? Would I need to teach her to not go near the wall? She wouldn't realize the perimeter would shock her unless she jumped te wall? If she were to jump the wall would the fence be ineffective past that? A little confused about the best approach.... |
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RyanGSP
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| 02/07/2013 12:33 PM |
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All the line is for is a signal for the collar. As the collar gets closer to the line the signal gets stronger and starts to stimulate the dog. So if the dog jumps the fence she would recieve stimulation until she got away from the line.
To be honest I would invest in a dog run. She can be out there all day with a better piece of mind she cant get out but more important noone will be able to lure her out and take her.
When you are in the backyard you can let her out to run the yard. They come in a variety of designs and sizes so it shouldnt be hard to find something that will work.
Another added bonus is feces are contained in the rub instead of all over the yard. |
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smatulewicz
Michigan
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| 02/07/2013 12:35 PM |
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| I think in training you actually show at some Point what the result of crossing would be, so I'm not sure what the best way to do that with the fence would be either. I also assume its ok to be exposed to the elements (if not buried), but that's something I don't know about either. |
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everbell
Kanata, ON
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| 02/07/2013 3:24 PM |
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| I'm considering a wireless system for our front yard. We will be fencing the back yard this spring (new house, had to wait a year). I'd like to have the dogs out front on the porch with me, but I can't trust them not to bolt after people/dogs walking down the street, therefore I can't really enjoy our porch the way I want. |
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kpwlee
Raleigh, NC
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| 02/07/2013 4:44 PM |
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With ours the beep can be anywhere between 12-18 inches prior to the zap/stim.
Not sure about not burying it - the manufacturer would be the place to ask.
The idea with the training is to teach them that the fun place to be is away from the boundary, the physical fence should work fine although you could put the flags where they get the beep and train them to stay off the physical fence. Ours won't let the beep and stim location be the same so keep that in mind.
As for a real young pup, sure it could work but I think waiting is more reasonable. I know of two 6 month olds that were trained on it, then terrified ( most pups go through a later fear period) and then retrained. I was happy to wait until my dog was old enough to get it once and for all. |
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 02/07/2013 5:38 PM |
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| I would put a hot wire on the existing fence. They work great and you put it high enough that it will work for the older dog, but will have no impact on the puppy. Also, no training with the hot wire and they are less expensive. With a shorthair you put them about 4 to 5 feet up and it takes one maybe two times and the dog will not touch the fence. It will also keep possums and squirrels off the fence, and a shorthair will go through an efence if they have high prey drive to get a squirrel or possum. The critters are usually the reason the shorthairs go over the fence to begin with. Also, with two they may not even have an inclination to go over because they will entertain each other. Also lots of toys will help too as they will not get bored and interested in things outside your yard. |
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 02/07/2013 5:44 PM |
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| My brother bought the unit that sends a signal in a circle and in works very well and will cover a large tea without all the work. I had forgotten that until I read smatulewicz's post. It would be an excellent and easy option. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
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