|
| Author |
Messages |
|
Mareezee Los Angeles, CA
 SH Posts:50


 |
| 01/03/2013 3:21 PM |
|
Hello all!! After some months of hiatus, I have returned to this wonderful forum. I have been trying to catch myself up on what everyone has been up to and how our furry children are doing I've been reading about some scuffles and surgeries, and GSP antics.
Luna is 7 months old now and is a massive 65 pounds. I don't know at what point she will stop growing, but both her parents were huge dogs, by the standards of the breed. During my abscence, underwear has been eaten and passed, socks have been eaten and vomited...and she is now in her new, appalling phase of eating poop 
On the bright side, she's had her brand new crate for just shy of 2 weeks now, and she more than willingly wanders in, takes naps, and plays with her toys in there. It didn't seem to take any time at all for her to adjust to being in her crate, which was a very pleasant surprise. She's doing wonderfully well in the socialization department, and has been learning to do tricks in her obedience class (she LOVES jumping through the hula hoop!). And when you all talk about "routine" and "structure", it's not joke! I think routine has helped tremendously with keeping our sanity!
A question I do have is regarding her extreme vocalization... I do not know if this is a problem, being overly excited, or something i should put a stop to. She will sometimes bark and growl right at me even though i am standing right in front of her within her reach. She seems to like the sound of her growl, and is not at all hostile when she does it, as she wags her tail uncontrollably, and her fur is completely relaxed. Should i correct this behavior? Or is it normal/acceptable? Thank you for your input!!
Glad to be back!
Marie
|
|
|
|
|
smatulewicz Michigan
 MH Posts:1188


 |
| 01/03/2013 4:51 PM |
|
Hi Marie. Welcome back! I think whether or not you work to correct this behavior is just personal preference. Some dogs are vocal, some are not. Some are vocal at particular times, while others are not. We personally didn't want Bella to be overly vocal so as a puppy we didn't allow vocalness in the home. For instance, if play got too vocal, we would end the play session and ignore her for a bit. She probably never barked until she was about Luna's age and I think the sound of her own voice startled her. Now, she has learned from other dogs to bark at the door, or loud thud that sounds like a car door. But only once or twice. I have found I am OK with this...and prefer it especially when home alone. She also learned to be vocal in dog play. Initially, vocal playful dogs startled her because she simply was not vocal. But, as she built confidence and realized it was play...she too will sometimes get fairly vocal playing. I have noticed just non bark vocalness to increase when the play is very mouthy. She adds a bark which I am not a fan of and have been working to eliminate when she is trying to entice a dog she KNOWS is matched in energy and speed to chase and run with her. If play gets too stationary and she is interested in the dog and wants to keep playing...she will bark. So it really just depends on what you feel comfortable with. Now that Bella is older and has more control over her vocalness, we do allow her to be more growly during play with us. But never bark during play with us. She doesn't bark at me, and is rarely vocal in response to demands. I would suggest to help break Luna of barking at you...not to respond to with any attention. If you so much as make eye contact in response to the bark...her bark was successful and she will keep doing it. Also, it is very hard but I even have to remind myself if I don't want Bella to bark at the door or a thud not to yell out "no" or "No bark" because in that moment...all she hears is me chiming in too...and it only encourages more barking. What I have found to work for us is to simply go up to her, place my fingers around her muzzle with a slight squeeze and then tell her "no bark". When she is quiet...I praise. Hope this is helpful! |
|
|
|
|
Mareezee Los Angeles, CA
 SH Posts:50


 |
| 01/03/2013 5:32 PM |
|
Thank you so much for your response! I think it's more of a problem when she is around people, now that i think about it. A lot of people misunderstand barking as being aggressive and they take offense, when she's actually being overly friendly! She does get into moods when she starts barking at passers-by from the car, but that's like 1 times out of ten. And i know it's not because of the particular person, because on a "barky" day, she'll bark at everyone, and on a non barky day, she's completely quiet. I will try more diligently to stop her from barking at us, i try not to give her attention while she does it, and it seems to help. Also, we do not throw her ball to fetch unless she is quiet.
On a side note, we are not hunters by any means, and compared with some of all of your pups, Luna would be considered a "city dog" even though we live in the suburbs. She doesn't point!! Whenever we do catch her in a weird half point or backwards point, it's hysterical to us. Last night we hid her ball and she started tracking it down. When she realized that half of it was hanging outside of my boyfriend's pocket, it completely caught her off guard and she pointed at it! She had us laughing until we cried...of course she doesn't lift her paw, but it's good enough for us! |
|
|
|
|
Texas Belle Austin, TX
 MH Posts:7835


 |
| 01/03/2013 10:30 PM |
|
So you got some good advice on the barking and vocalizing. Three of my GSPs are not very vocal, but my youngster is a talker and vocalized allot. Allot of it is just the personality of the dog. In any case, I have worked with her and she has improved. The challenge I have is when she wants to stir up trouble she runs to the front of the house barking madly like something bad is in the front yard which almost always gets the rest of the gang going. It is hard not to laugh because it is so obvious what she is doing. And she also is rewarded by my other dogs. But we are getting there. As for the pointing. That is hilarious. As for lifting the leg, not many shorthairs actually lift their leg when pointing. They typically freeze in the position they are in when they pick up the sent of whatever they are hunting. I have even seen shorthairs freeze with there back leg up. So a point is a point regardless of their position. Here is a picture of my baby pointing when she was about 4 months old. She was pointing a pigeon which is what I train with when I start the babies out on birds. And a picture of my boy pointing. In the first picture my girl has her back leg up and in the second he is on all fours. |
|
Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
|
|
Mareezee Los Angeles, CA
 SH Posts:50


 |
| 01/03/2013 10:53 PM |
|
thank you Texas Belle! Your pups are so handsome! I guess i can confidently say that Luna does point then! I have this recurring daydream that Luna finally meets another GSP, but then gets made fun of for not being trained to hunt . At least we can say she points  |
|
|
|
|
everbell Kanata, ON
 MH Posts:3162


 |
| 01/04/2013 3:57 AM |
|
Marie, if it makes you feel any better neither of mine hunt and we know many people in the area who don't hunt with their's either. The group of GSPs we know tend to be involved in agility, obedience, canicross, skijoring and bikejoring. Lots you can do with them aside from hunting  |
|
Joce and Rich Bogart and Shiraz (GSPs) Roxane (RIP: 1995-2009) and Tiger Lily (Cats) The Everbell Adventures |
|
|
Mareezee Los Angeles, CA
 SH Posts:50


 |
| 01/04/2013 4:10 PM |
|
| Thanx everbell! That does reassure me. I am looking into agility training and dock dogs training for Luna. She LOVES to run alongside the bike (although we limit that greatly since she is still growing) and bikejoring looks like so much fun! I do know that they don't have to hunt, but sometimes i do feel like im "depriving her of her purpose" so to speak. I know there are some breeders who won't even sell to non-hunting families. She seems happy enough doing what she's doing, and we have no complaints either! |
|
|
|
|
NixiesMark Texas
 MH Posts:120

 |
| 01/04/2013 4:34 PM |
|
Welcome back! I love your avatar picture! Her face markings are so unique! I thought Nixie was citified too didn't really know how to point either! I still think she's a little off in her hunting instincts (she was the last of her litter and I've always wondered why). I'm glad you're enjoying her though and I totally understand the "depriving her" feeling as well. We go hiking together though and she'll be coming on my runs as well when she's old enough! I totally want to try bikejoring too! |
|
|
|
|
smatulewicz Michigan
 MH Posts:1188


 |
| 01/04/2013 5:31 PM |
|
You give her a loving home and any kind of activity and she'll be a happy girl. She'll find ways to utilize any natural instincts that come through. One GSP at our dog park doesn't officially hunt, and never has But the entire time his owner walks...he finds squirrels in the tops of trees...points them...and waits for ANYONE to notice lol. Bella has all but given up on playing with him. He isn't interested (granted he's 9). So spends her time around him torn between feeling like she should be doing what he is doing...and playing. 65 pounds? You've got yourself a cow moose B is an average ole 48-49 pounds. I wanted a bigger dog, but now I'm used to her size and it's nice. Hubbs could stand to still have a bigger dog I think. He mentioned a wolfhound the other day for crying out loud. It would need its own twin sized bed! Bev, I honestly didn't know that about GSPs. Thank you. I wondered why my nephew dog (Vizsla) pointed significantly more than Bella and he has never hunted a day in his life. Bella will raise a paw at catching a scent, but typically then plants all four when she freezes. I have caught her several times with a back lifted slightly (as if she was going to finish the step into the smell, but froze instead). So I'm sure Luna is just fine! I'm sure she has a superb life as a city gal. |
|
|
|
|
Texas Belle Austin, TX
 MH Posts:7835


 |
| 01/04/2013 10:41 PM |
|
| As a breeder my top priority in placing a puppy is a good home. The rest is just icing. And don't feel guilty. A shorthair is happiest with their owner. Doesn't matter what you do together, just that you are together. |
|
Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
|
|
vnrose53
 MH Posts:379


 |
| 01/07/2013 3:32 PM |
|
Put up a bird feeder or birdbath and your dog will hunt to her heart's content. (Just be prepared for the occasionaly feathery corpse. ) I just find it funny when mine vocalize--Chelsea will sometimes "yowl" at me when she wants something or thinks I'm being annoying ; Humphrey is a real talker. He'll go "MMMMMM!" when he's happy, "YRRRROWL!" when he greets me (I guess it could sound growly, but the madly wagging tail gives him away), and will sometimes scare me out of my socks with a loud "urrrROWF!", invariably from right behind me. |
|
|
|
|
|
| You are not authorized to post a reply. |
|
Forums > General > General Discussion > We're back! and have more questions <img src="/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/blue/emoticons/smile.gif" align=absmiddle alt=":)" border=0>
|
|
ActiveForums 3.7
|
You must be logged in to use this module.
|
 |
Membership: |
 |
Latest:
CliffBaill |
 |
New Today:
0 |
 |
New Yesterday:
0 |
 |
Overall:
3204 |
 |
People Online: |
 |
Visitors:
88 |
 |
Members:
0 |
 |
Total:
88 |
Online Now:
|
|
|
|
|