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NSBoydUser is Offline
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12/13/2012 1:31 PM  

 For the most part Elsie is really a good puppy, but I think she is addicted to paper.. Eating it. Shredding it, stealing the whole roll of toilet paper and throwing it all over the house... You name it. The dog is obsessed. Initally, I thought she was doing it because she was bored but I really don't think that is the case. She can be playing with her toys, completly distracted and you get up to grab a napkin or a tissue and she will try everything she can to grab it out of your hand.

Is there a way can we do to discourage this behavior or she always going to be obsessed?

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12/13/2012 2:50 PM  
I once had a cat that would come running from whatever nook of the house he had been snoozing in at the sound of paper being wadded. The best toys are free lol. With Bella we were pretty consistent with the "trade up" method and I am so glad we were. She very rarely grabs anything that isn't hers and if she does it was something on the floor and she will bring it to us as if to ask if she can keep it. What I mean by trading up is whenever she had something that wasn't hers, she was never reprimanded. We would simply take it (we chose to say "that's momma's" or "that's dad's") and then replace it with something that she was allowed to have, something better if possible (and then said "this you may have") as a pup she would happily take the trade but often still look a bit bummed so it may take something pretty great to trade to keep Elsie's mind off paper. This helped her learn how we define something to be ours and not for her. This also helped her not to become a dog that sneaks taking things and trying to hide it from us so it won't be taken. I have found that with dogs, any unwanted behavior or fixation, a redirection of attention almost always works...if you can make it just as interesting somehow.
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12/14/2012 6:46 AM  
I think I would just go about training to leave it like I do with any other things mine can't have like legos and socks ect...

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12/14/2012 7:55 AM  

 We have been working on the "leave it" command. Sometimes she gets it, other times she is so stubborn! ( A stubborn shorthair? That's hard to believe! ) I have also tried the trade up method, but like you said she is less than enthusiastic sometimes so maybe I will trade out the "old, boring" toys for some of the ones I have tucked away.


Thanks for the good advice! 
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12/14/2012 8:08 AM  

You're doing right to have some toys tucked away. In addition to food, treats, and activity we wanted Bella to know we ultimately controlled the fun too (all the more reason to think we are the GREATEST leaders ever lol). So, I never had all of her toys out at once. Especially ones that held a lot of interest (in the puppy stage, ropes were here favorite so after breakfast and a brief training session I allowed her to have some rope time), they were saved for my secret weapons lol. Of course, now that she is older we fizzled on this. But, when we get a new toy, boy does she listen intently and perform 100% to earn it lol.

One thing that I think helped Bella pick up on the leave it command quickly was that I never rewarded her with what I told her to leave...this way she learned to become more focused on a different better outcome. For example, I used treats while training leave it. I would put her in a sit/stay (use a check cord at this point in time if you pup's stay isn't great) I would say "leave it" and toss a treat a couple of feet away of. Of course she would stare at it. If she attempted to go for it I would correct her with a "ah ah" and gently put her back in her sit/stay (without repeating the command). Eventually she would look at me for further instruction (or just to question why in the world she couldn't go get that lol)...once her attention came to me I would praise and reward her with a treat I had in hand...never the treat that was tossed aside. It all takes time, but you sound like you are on a terrific path!

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12/14/2012 8:10 AM  
Aaaah, puppyhood.
Shouldn't this be in the ANTICS thread?

Obedience will solve this.





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12/14/2012 9:09 AM  
haha it should be in the antics thread.. No Christmas present is safe from Elsie Lou! I do have a better story that I will share over there!

@smatulewicz She doesn't have any ropes toys but I bet she would love them! I like your tip about the leave it. We have been having her go for the treat we set aside and she would rather go for it right away rather than sit and leave it.
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12/14/2012 2:14 PM  
Leave it works well. I don't pick up stuff in my house, I teach my dogs what is theirs and what isn't theirs. So now they leave my stuff along and they know that anything in their toy box is fair game. As for stubborn, I would describe it as persistent instead of stubborn.

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12/15/2012 4:16 PM  
yeah I agree from day 1 we teach that they only touch their toys/chews everything else is off limits... actually it has always been pretty easy... none of y dogs are ever interested in anything of ours... kids socks lay around untouched, legos are left out in the play room and now christmas tree...

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12/15/2012 5:46 PM  
Great advice so far, "leave it" and "trade" are still used here. Took patience and persistence on my part though.
And he will still check one bathroom's garbage can for a tissue daily (we never use it but he remains optimistic) . Usually at dinner time :)
We had a holiday party last week with 40 people and despite ample opportunity to steal food he didn't - he did steal & eat several red paper napkins though. The evidence was obvious!

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12/16/2012 5:24 PM  
Elsie has been doing pretty good with the leave it command. Patience is key for sure! She really impressed me yesterday. I threw a little bridal shower for my sister and I had about 20 people. She managed to leave all paper products, including gifts alone during the whole party. Even went to her crate (on her own) and fell asleep when all the ladies started to get a little rowdy. Everyone was commenting on what a good puppy she is shaping up to be.
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12/17/2012 5:43 PM  
Posted By NSBoyd on 12/16/2012 5:24 PM
Elsie has been doing pretty good with the leave it command. Patience is key for sure! She really impressed me yesterday. I threw a little bridal shower for my sister and I had about 20 people. She managed to leave all paper products, including gifts alone during the whole party. Even went to her crate (on her own) and fell asleep when all the ladies started to get a little rowdy. Everyone was commenting on what a good puppy she is shaping up to be.


That's awesome!! My idiot still won't toddle off to sleep if there are people here :(


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01/04/2013 12:22 PM  

I think this is part of their prey drive, typical GSP puppy stuff, I've had three and they all did this.  Training the leave it command and trading for treats should work but it takes time.

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