I have always thought roan was dark,there are patches but the patches do not stand out,as there is no contrasting background color.
I believe my younger dog to be black/white/roan.

Ryan  I'm sure its been stated before its the GSPCA that sets the standard AKC has nothing to do with it except following what our breed club tells them to.  You also said CKC recognizes black well this is from their standard

" Colour
Solid liver, liver and white spotted, liver and white spotted and ticked, liver and white ticked, liver roan. Any colours other than liver and white (grey white) are not permitted.

Faults
Bone structure too clumsy or too light; head too large; too many wrinkles in forehead; dish-faced, snipey muzzle; ears too long, pointy or fleshy; flesh-coloured nose; eyes too light, too round or too closely set together; excessive throatiness; Cow-hocks; feet or elbows turned inward or outward; down on pasterns; loose shoulders; sway back; black coat or tricoloured; any colours except liver or some combination of liver and white."

Seems the only difference is the GSPCA standard lists black as a DQ and the CKC doesn't list any DQ's just faults..

I dont't care either way if black gets accepted or not but my question to the people that are so for it besides the "other countries accept it we should to" what does it offer the dogs that have been bred in america for the past 70 years?

I think it has but in whos eyesÉ The breed has changed and its not hard to see that. You look at a dog from the north eat they are much heavier built than a dog from out here on the prairies because they dont need to run nearly as big. Out here you find the dogs a little lighter built with a little more leg to them. Then there are alot of show dogs that are 95 lbs and built like a bull dozer. A dog thats built to win shows not run even an hour of its life.

Who is right on what the breed should look like? Everyone would think their dog is right eithere because it does its job in the field very well (whether it be grouse, covey birds, pheasants, or waterfowl) or the big 95 pound show dog that is correct because it has a show championship?

Nobody hear knows exactly why back in the 1930s they decided not to allow it, but it wasn't accepted and people bred off the original standard and did so successfully for many years and still continue to do so.. So it goes back to my original question why the need to allow black now?

I spoke with a lady from canada at our specialty last year that claims she showed the 1 black champion in the history of the CKC and it wasn't easy getting it.  

So I guess it comes down to why did people start breeding disqualifying faults in america in the first place? Would the same people breed a dog with a bad bite,china eyes/wall eyes or how about a flesh colored nose???

I never said I was against having them in the show ring all I was asking was what do black dogs bring to the table besides a color?

We're not talking about the DKV standard we're talking about the gspca/akc standard  which has been in place since the 1930's never once allowing blacks..

If you want to follow the DKV standard than why not get a DK and participate in DK events?

Well they offer the same thing as a brown dog I can't see any reason that the breed here "needs" black...

Here is all I could find on why they weren't accepted.

The 1975 American Standard, more detailed than its 1946 version, was the work of a Parent Club committee using the 1902 German Standard published in Herr Seiger's book as a reference. The process began in 1962 and was approved by the AKC in 1975. Since the 1902 German Standard was written before the first black dogs were whelped there would be no reference of the color black. Therefore the color disqualification section of the 1975 American Standard that states "a dog with any area of black, red, orange, lemon or tan or a dog solid white will be disqualified" might more accurately reflect the growing concern at the time of German Shorthairs being bred to field pointers and setters.

Once again I'll ask If you want to follow the DKV standard than why not get a DK and participate in DK events?

so I guess you're saying you'd be fine with tri-color,yellow,and solid white dogs in the show ring as well?