Can't we all just get along.....

Flash,

So I guess I am not the only one who might mistakenly respond to the wrong person.  I am not testing my dogs for genes that don't belong in purebred GSPs.  I don't have crossbred dogs.  It was not the show people who were crossbreeding for blue ribbons, it was the field triallers. And yes my dogs are from show lines.  But all my dogs are DNA'd routinely.  And they all hunt.

Here is my newest show dog on his first bird at 6 weeks:

And his brother:

And yes, I have less respect for anyone who will not use their real name when they state their opinions on the internet or in writing anywhere. Name calling and sexist remarks will certainly never make anyone respect what you have to say more, except maybe another person like yourself who will equally lose the respect of the readers. 

Flame away.

Everyone here knows pretty well everyone else and if someone doesnt want to put their name in their post thats their own buisness not some control freak out in New York. Pretty sure its a free country and signing posts inst a rule on Shorthairs.net.

As for the Field Trialer comment, thats a pretty broad statement. You cant blame everyone that participates in a venue for the actions of a few. Besides isnt cross breeding what started all breeds in the first place? Im not condoning cross breeding so dont try to put words in my mouth.

Thats what makes the GSP so great, you can get a dog that suits your style of hunting for your area. Because they are so popular they come in many different shapes, sizes, temperament, point styles, and range. I guarantee what I look for in a dog out here in Alberta isnt the same as what you look for in a dog in New York.

Oh and BTW just because your dog can point pigeons or you take him out to a preserve once in a while doesnt mean he can hunt. It just means he can find planted birds easy. Bring them out west and we will see just how good of "hunters" they really are. Looking at your website the highest titled dog you have is a JH which is more meant to show a little natural ability and get the handler's "feet wet" in field tests. Come back and claim you have hunting dogs when you got a couple seasons of wild birds under those dogs collars and some SH or UT titles.

First off, I did get a little confused last night and clearly should not have posted the throat comment. I apologize for that. Got into the Grey Goose a little.

Trublue, you and I are not as far apart on this issue as it might seem. The one thing that still doesnt seem to be understood in all this is that one parent cannot pass the phenotype along, only the genotype. If you see the color, you have to have both parents involved (unless it is something other than the 'e' locus). I get fired up and like to argue/debate, but generally do not intend to offend, so if I have, again, I am sorry.

CathyYak - I do not believe I have engaged in name calling or sexism. I have stated facts as I have seen them... repeated ignorance is called out and I refered to a small group of you as ladies, which I do believe is accurate. If that is sexist, then I guess I am guilty.

As far as the "true identity" issue goes. My name would mean nothing to you. I dont breed, I dont show dogs. I dont run in your circles. I would never even be on this forum except for trying to understand my dogs color. I do find it interesting, thought that the only times names and identity get brought up is when feather get ruffled. It is a commonly used political tactic to change the arguement when you dont like it.

I have never flamed anyone or thier dogs. I have never challenged anyones breeding practice or even their breeding philosophy.

TYPE RULES!

- Ken Adams   Michigan.

I think that one was directed at me for saying there was too many hens in the hen house.

Briarpatch,

I found your suggestion that the little "e" responsible for these lemon dogs we are seeing recently are honestly inherited from dogs used in the original development of the breed very interesting. Could you let me know what you read to give you that impression? I would really love to see that. I am truly interesting in science related to GSPs that I have not stumbled on previously. Thanks.

Cathy