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pixie bee
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| 06/15/2012 5:01 AM |
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A few things I would change -
don't you love back seat drivers?!
On the first video you release her when you are far away from her. I know it's a mark but you will have more control,if you for some reason may need it, and increase work ethic, not that it's poor, if you are in a postsition that promotes focus on you AND the task at hand. IOW, be in control from start to finish. Now, I now you have explained the delivery and that may be true and all but what she displayed in both videos is avoidance. Next time use treats to lure her into position as she's coming in.
Second video, your handling skills need improvement, but all in all, she knows what you are saying and is eager to obey.
You guys look like you're having fun.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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tgatto
Lake in the Hills, IL
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| 06/15/2012 5:50 AM |
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So... you can see the videos now! Great!
You are right, with the avoidance thing. I thought it could also be some dominance (she wanders with the dummies before heeling-up). I have tried treats - LOTS of them. About half the time she spits them out, and I end up forcing her to eat them. Maybe I need to try some hot-dogs, or something she will like better.
On simple marks, I do like her a bit away from me. I accidentally thumped her with a dummy, because I prefer to heel her on the right. I am comfortable with where she is at. I could, however, step closer to her before sending her. I have actually been doing that as we work on alignment (I call it the wagon wheels).
We will continue to work on casting - pretty new to that aspect of it. She is catching on quick, I am learning, and YES we are having fun!
Thanks Pixie! |
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It is watching the dogs work that I thoroughly enjoy, and love. I could get by with just watching them work - if it weren't for all the training, and the joy they exhibit when they pick-up, and deilver to hand a bird that they pointed, and you shot. - Todd |
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pixie bee
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| 06/15/2012 7:35 AM |
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I can guess as to what is causing the avoidance - I don't think it's dominance.
Usually avoidance occurs as a by-product of the teaching of ff - could be too harsh on the dog - not every time, even once would leave a sour taste in the dog's mouth,could be a problem with HERE or SIT,could be a dog doesn't understand what we really require,could be possessiveness,could be a ot of things.
As far as sending her when you are further away,on simple marks, it could come back to bite you. I am refering to the first video where it looks like you are behind her.
If casting is still new, you guys should look into T drills. I am assuming you have done pattern blinds? Wagon wheels may be jumping the gun. Iy requires a more fine tuned lining.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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tgatto
Lake in the Hills, IL
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| 06/15/2012 9:14 AM |
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AH! See, that is where the angle, and zoom (probably the resolution as well) do not do it justice. When I looked at the video, I was farther from her than I usually like to be. As it was though, I was even, or slightly ahead of her, just to her left a little farther than I like. Maybe because I was more focused on getting the mark out, and minimizing memory requirements on the camera. Anyways, I try not to do simple marks from behind the dog.
We have been starting on some T-drills. She does her blind work pretty well, but gets a little anxious behind a blind (Mostly my fault, she is trained upland, and I have not pushed blind work as much). I have some limitations, as I live in suburbia. |
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It is watching the dogs work that I thoroughly enjoy, and love. I could get by with just watching them work - if it weren't for all the training, and the joy they exhibit when they pick-up, and deilver to hand a bird that they pointed, and you shot. - Todd |
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pixie bee
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| 06/15/2012 9:48 AM |
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Only a suggestion -
don't do blind retrieves until you get thru T and if you plan on doing TT, wait until you are done. Blinds require handling and you need to have this in place or you may muddle up the training in her mind.
Look into something called gradient blinds.
What I have learned is that training is a process not a race.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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Smylinacha
Connecticut
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| 06/15/2012 1:52 PM |
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| All the videos are blocked from me at work - oh well, guess I should be working LOL. I can't wait to watch them tonight when I get home! |
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tgatto
Lake in the Hills, IL
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| 06/18/2012 10:00 AM |
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| I have that problem too. Can't see videos, and pictures at work. Let me know your thoughts once you can see the videos! |
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