MKleisch
Chicago
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| 07/23/2012 9:22 AM |
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I am looking into sending my dog away for pro training. Right now I am looking into 2 due to their proximity to Chicago and from what I have read on their websites. Any recommendations, advice or input would be greatly appreciated. Muddy Creek Kennels in Mo and Captains Kennels in Wi.
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tgatto
Lake in the Hills, IL
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| 07/23/2012 11:01 AM |
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Hey MKleisch. I train my own dogs, so I have limited experience there. I know there is not too much around the Chicago area. You may try K. River Valley Kennels (www.steadyonpoint.com). They are out of Woodstock. You may also look into the Northern Illinois/Southern Wisconsin NAVHDA chapter (www.ninavhda.org). They are good to get you through most of the training issues you may encounter, if you are training yourself, or if issues arise after professional training. What type of hunting do you plan on doing with your dog? |
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MKleisch
Chicago
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| 07/23/2012 11:35 AM |
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| I was planning on Upland and Waterfowl hunting. As of now the pup is 20 weeks old |
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tgatto
Lake in the Hills, IL
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| 07/23/2012 12:09 PM |
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| Steady on point is recommended at the club I used to hunt at (which is owned by a high-school buddy of mine). He has his dogs trained for waterfowl, and upland, and I don't think he would recommend them, if they weren't good. NAVHDA would also be an advantage, if only for the practice/testing they offer out at Bong State Recreational Area in Wisconsin. |
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It is watching the dogs work that I thoroughly enjoy, and love. I could get by with just watching them work - if it weren't for all the training, and the joy they exhibit when they pick-up, and deilver to hand a bird that they pointed, and you shot. - Todd |
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MKleisch
Chicago
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| 07/23/2012 12:38 PM |
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| Sounds good, I will check them out. Nice that he is so close to me. |
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tgatto
Lake in the Hills, IL
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| 07/23/2012 1:21 PM |
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| A little off topic, but where do you upland-hunt? |
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It is watching the dogs work that I thoroughly enjoy, and love. I could get by with just watching them work - if it weren't for all the training, and the joy they exhibit when they pick-up, and deilver to hand a bird that they pointed, and you shot. - Todd |
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MKleisch
Chicago
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| 07/23/2012 1:51 PM |
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Best Days Afield in Wi
fortino hunt club in IL
are the places i have been too. Looking to ramp it up obviously now that I have a dog |
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tgatto
Lake in the Hills, IL
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| 07/23/2012 2:02 PM |
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Have you checked out Coon Creek? Just down 90 Between Marengo and Belvidere? Prices went up a little, but may save money, depending on commute from where you are at in Chicago. (www.cooncreekhuntclub.com) |
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It is watching the dogs work that I thoroughly enjoy, and love. I could get by with just watching them work - if it weren't for all the training, and the joy they exhibit when they pick-up, and deilver to hand a bird that they pointed, and you shot. - Todd |
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tgatto
Lake in the Hills, IL
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| 07/24/2012 8:03 AM |
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I would also be remiss if I did not plug my current hunt club - McCullom Lake Hunt Club in Hebron, Illinois (www.mccullomlakehuntclub.com/). A little more pricy, and a private-type club (reason for it being a little more pricey). They have equity memberships available, though, and they are a pay-for-what-you-shoot type club (not a buy-before-you-hunt). So, they release birds - they don't spin them down, like they do elsewhere. |
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It is watching the dogs work that I thoroughly enjoy, and love. I could get by with just watching them work - if it weren't for all the training, and the joy they exhibit when they pick-up, and deilver to hand a bird that they pointed, and you shot. - Todd |
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MKleisch
Chicago
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| 07/25/2012 8:22 AM |
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| Thanks! |
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Splat
Illinois (Northern)
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| 07/27/2012 6:52 AM |
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| I have been debating getting a membership at the coon creek one... it is only maybe 20 minutes from my house and I pass it on my way to my parents house all the time... just not sure if my dogs are hunting dogs... they have been raised as pets with some very beginner hunting exposure... |
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tgatto
Lake in the Hills, IL
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| 07/30/2012 9:40 AM |
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Coon Creek does have introduction hunts. Marco, the on-site manager, would be more than happy to plant birds (I think the introduction is 6-birds), and let you know about where they are, so that you can work the dog on them.
Format is pretty nice - they give you an area to hunt that is quite large (about 20 - 40 acres). There were times we were out that we were the only one in the fields. You can hunt mornings (about 8 - 12), or afternoons (about 1 - 5). I typically saw more birds than I purchased out there (Sadie's first hunt was there, and he put out 2 hens, and 2 roosters, and we got 3 roosters, and saw only 1 hen). They have a good combination of cover, but mostly on wetland (so be ready for mud at certain times of year, and steel shot only requirements). Marco set us up in some grassland that was plotted with Pheasants Forever grass mix. It kept the birds from running (kinda), or at least slowed them down.
If you are looking for some beginner hunting exposure, Coon Creek is pretty good! |
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It is watching the dogs work that I thoroughly enjoy, and love. I could get by with just watching them work - if it weren't for all the training, and the joy they exhibit when they pick-up, and deilver to hand a bird that they pointed, and you shot. - Todd |
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Splat
Illinois (Northern)
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| 07/31/2012 6:36 AM |
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| Thanx for that info! It would be so nice to go there as it is so close to us... during the season when we drive by it is usually guaranteed to see pheasant along the road... my biggest concern is the gun shot noise with the dogs... |
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tgatto
Lake in the Hills, IL
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| 08/28/2012 8:55 AM |
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| As far as the noise, that is manageable. Start with a clap during training, or playing sessions. Once the dog is used to it, go to a Cap Gun, then a .22 blank pistol. By the time they aren't responding to the blank pistol, they are pretty much ready for a shotgun. With a consistent training/play, I usually progress my dogs every 2 weeks, or so, and never have an issue. |
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It is watching the dogs work that I thoroughly enjoy, and love. I could get by with just watching them work - if it weren't for all the training, and the joy they exhibit when they pick-up, and deilver to hand a bird that they pointed, and you shot. - Todd |
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pixie bee
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| 08/28/2012 9:43 AM |
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I think the best way for you to intro gunshot would be to first determine the level of prey drive during the search part of the hunt and then if and how driven they chase.
Carry a gun with you.Take one dog at a time.
If on the 3-4 bird the dog is showing a good range in chase and strong drive you can shoot away from the dog when the dog is a few hundred feet in hot persuit
Just ignore the dog, they most likely will show some sign of being startled but not bothered - just curious and some dogs completely ignore the shot.
Keep moving on to the next birds and play it by ear.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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singltrak
Las Cruces, NM
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| 08/30/2012 1:08 PM |
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Marcia, Marcia, Marcia... Not sure about Blitz, but Striker is 7th generation Dual Champion bloodlines on his sire's side and grandpa on mom's was also a BIS Dual.. He's got the right genes going for him and if he's anything like the rest of this crazy bunch (now two years old), he'll kick butt in the hunting department... You need to get back in touch with Adam DeLude also (he's near Chicago) and can help you with training. (thefirstdayback@yahoo.com) He's told me he keeps trying to locate you and Striker.
Hugs from the gang down here in S. NM
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Splat
Illinois (Northern)
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| 08/31/2012 10:18 AM |
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| I'm not near Chicago though... and I avoid it at all cost... I am about 5 minutes from Wisconsin... WI is my front yard! |
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Splat
Illinois (Northern)
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| 08/31/2012 10:20 AM |
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| I am not really looking into being professional... I know my dogs can go out and sniff out birds... I also know that once they point I can get them to stay for us to flush and shoot it... I don't know if they will run back to the vehicle once that happens or retrieve it cuz we just haven't been anywhere we can do that part... for that to happen I need a lot of money for a club membership and free time (ha whats' that!) |
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singltrak
Las Cruces, NM
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| 08/31/2012 4:52 PM |
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I know, but Adam's looking for ya....he did ask me again the other day too...
Phyllis |
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Splat
Illinois (Northern)
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| 09/01/2012 5:34 AM |
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| I used to have him on my fb but something weird happened at one of their updates cuz I lost a bunch of friends, smeo people noticed right away and re-requested m,e but some I noticed after a while, and some I never put 2 and 2 together... |
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