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06/18/2012 2:04 PM  

Im looking into getting set up to keep some quail so that i can work with Murphy between NAVHDA training days with live birds. I've been noticing that there are different breeds of quail and am wondering about which is best? Or if they are all suitable for dog training?

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06/18/2012 2:47 PM  
My experience, it doesn't matter, as long as the birds are large, well fed, and fast-flying. This ensures that the dog doesn't catch a bird that it is not intended to catch. I used to keep my own Quail, but I found that they would get lethargic over time from lack of flight. Well fed, just lack of flight. I prefer to use quail from a flight pen at the club I hunt at.

It is watching the dogs work that I thoroughly enjoy, and love. I could get by with just watching them work - if it weren't for all the training, and the joy they exhibit when they pick-up, and deilver to hand a bird that they pointed, and you shot. - Todd
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06/18/2012 2:59 PM  

For day to day training it's usually best to use pigeons. Any mistakes you make or negative consequences associated while training with pigeons usually doesn't get transferred to quail or any other game bird. This helps keep your dog's intensity level up when they do go after quail, chukars ect. It also decreases the chances of your dog blinking on quail due to some mistake or negative experience during training. An added bonus is they're cheaper then quail and easy to catch if you are so inclined. If you do plan on using quail I would get references and find out who has the best flying birds in your price range. Some breeders have birds that fly very well and others have birds that don't fly at all.

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06/19/2012 4:18 AM  
I like & have bob whites. The nice thing is with a call back pen they are easy to
re-capture for another day. The secret to good flyers is flying the birds often.

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06/19/2012 5:00 AM  
What do you set up for a recall pen? Is it something you transport to your training area? And how do you go about getting them to recall?
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06/19/2012 8:19 AM  

Recall pens are available from Cabela's. They are a cage with a funnel chute into the cage (so birds can walk in but can't walk out). Recall is accomplished by leaving a few birds in the cage. Quail naturally covey, so they call the individuals (or call-back), so they recall the free-birds! It is pretty neat, and occurs naturally.

Issue I always had was I never had enough time to get the quail to recall.  Also, birds aren't very smart, and I found that they injured each other.  Helps when you can locate the cage close to the field (in other words, you live near a field), or you have an hour or so to wait after you work the dog.


It is watching the dogs work that I thoroughly enjoy, and love. I could get by with just watching them work - if it weren't for all the training, and the joy they exhibit when they pick-up, and deilver to hand a bird that they pointed, and you shot. - Todd
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06/19/2012 6:44 PM  
so the quail would likely recall with an hour or so? And could i make my own recall pen?
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06/19/2012 6:50 PM  
Recall pen, as other have said? Research it.

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06/20/2012 4:04 AM  
Posted By wilmagsp on 06/19/2012 5:00 AM
What do you set up for a recall pen? Is it something you transport to your training area? And how do you go about getting them to recall?
 
I made one that is small out of 1/2 " hardware cloth that can be easily moved about. Works great. 


 


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06/20/2012 4:59 AM  
Thanks Chris. I'm going to make a pen at my parents house and get the quail this weekend or next. The other thing in wondering about the recall pen is about the funnel. How big do you make it?
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06/21/2012 4:11 AM  
Will you be building housing for the birds ? or you have that end covered ? you just are building a recall box ? Here is a pic of what I have been using for yrs & it works great. Simple but works . I have lent it to people to catch thier run-aways . The cone should taper from about 6" outside to about 4 1/2 " inches inside. Angle the cone upwards so they are less likely to escape out the entry. By tapering the cone they squeeze through to get in. A lot of fun ....... you will be amazed & laughing your butt off when you arrive and see what you have ! Don't leave it out over night with birds in it. Weasels will climb in also. I have lost birds in this pen at 2:00 in the afternoon to weasels.

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06/21/2012 4:47 AM  
Thanks Chris. I started building a pen to house them last night. Just waiting for wire mesh on Friday. I won't be training in the same place the birds are housed so that is why I wondered about the recall pen. Thanks for your help. Sounds like it should be pretty easy to make one up
Mike
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