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heidismoke
THIBODAUX, LA
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| 02/20/2008 6:13 PM |
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Hey everybody, obviously I'm new to the site, and I am a 1st time gsp owner. My question is this, (any response will be appreciated)
My girl is 16 weeks old tomorrow and she is beginning to be very stubborn. From 10 weeks until now we have worked on a number of skills, some being advanced for her age.
Point, Sit and stay, blind scent retrieval, return bird to hand, heal, etc...
She was doing all of these things perfectly, and without hesitation. She would give you that look that makes you think that she knows what you are about to say before you say it.
All has changed now and I cannot even get her to heal, and she will run off and pretend that she doesnt hear me. She is very attention defeciet! We do exercise everyday. At least 2 miles, sometimes 4. I understand that at this age there are a lot of psyche changes and independence issues.
My question is this, should I change my direction in training? Or just fight through it! How do I get her to regain the interest and zone in to the training? |
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pixie bee
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| 02/20/2008 6:58 PM |
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You haven't mentioned the "come " command.
I would stick with basic obedience,now that you know she can point,which is early for many dogs, and get these down near perfect,especially the recall.
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RyanGSP
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| 02/21/2008 5:23 AM |
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I would have to say stop what your doing and give your head a shake. Your talking about a 4 month old puppy here not a 2 year old dog. Back off the exersize dont expect a 4 month old to be running miles and miles. Not a good idea.
This stage she should be having fun and goofing around not into a strict training regime that demands perfections.
Wait till she is a year old with a hunting season under her then start in on some of the more serious stuff like steadying her on point, and her retrieve. Right now simple work on the come command and whoa but dont demand perfection for another few months because you wont get it.
Slow down with the training this dog is still young let it be a puppy. |
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krtennyson
Northern Virginia
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| 02/21/2008 9:17 AM |
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I agree, sounds like you have overdone things a bit in your zeal to get your puppy up to speed. In the end this may cause more harm than good. There is plenty of time for formal training, right now you should focus on socializing and building a strong bond with your pup.
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heidismoke
THIBODAUX, LA
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| 02/22/2008 3:49 PM |
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Thanks for the reply,
reading back, it sounds like I'm a slave driver with a firm hand. by no means is that the case.
I am actually passive with what she does and doesnt want to do, realizing that she is just a puppy.
My question was meant to be this: How do i keep her interested and not regress? |
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pixie bee
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| 02/22/2008 4:17 PM |
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A puppy has a short attention span, and that's the smart ones!
Keep the sessions short.1-2 minutes of sit training, let some time pass then do 1-2 minutes of recall,ect.
Learning should only mean success for a puppy.This will increase desire and learning.
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Hogan
Wisconsin
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| 02/23/2008 6:26 AM |
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You have a puppy. Let it be a puppy a bit longer.
IMO at this age you should be just bonding with the pup.
Basic leash training is ok, but if you plan on hunting with the dog, do not over do the sit command.
I have seen to many gsp's taken to the pet store training sessions where the sit command is extremely over done. You do not want that pup to start sitting on point. |
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RyanGSP
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| 02/23/2008 9:30 AM |
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extremely over done. You do not want that pup to start sitting on point.
Dogs sit on point because too much pressure is being applied. I have sit trained all my dogs before they were field trained and I never had a problem with them sitting on point. Keep the training with little or no pressure like it should and you wont have a dog that sits on point.
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Bedberg
Duluth, MN
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| 02/23/2008 11:58 PM |
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| Gary, I agree with you about the sit command being overdone. They can just as easily whoa, come or easy with the same reward. Has anyone ever seen a GSP sitting in the field? If you want them to hunt, train on hunting skills first. Tory was 2 1/2 before he knew was sit was. He is an excellent bird dog and an even better house dog. |
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Hogan
Wisconsin
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| 02/26/2008 10:10 AM |
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Posted By Bedberg on 02/23/2008 11:58 PM
Gary, I agree with you about the sit command being overdone. They can just as easily whoa, come or easy with the same reward. Has anyone ever seen a GSP sitting in the field? If you want them to hunt, train on hunting skills first. Tory was 2 1/2 before he knew was sit was. He is an excellent bird dog and an even better house dog.
I have seen 2 dogs sit on point and both of them were pushed through the pet store training sessions that enforced the sit command to the extreme. Will not mention the pet store but it begins with P and ends with T, with 6 letters in between.
I do not see any problem with their training style if all you are looking for is obedience training, which some of the show people, that suits their needs.
For a field dog though, I would not recommend it.
I have known of some people that have taken their pointers to these training sessions and have discussed with the instructor before hand about their concerns with sit and their hunting dogs. Some instructors will be understanding and not require the regimented sit command |
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Ace1cappuccino
Carp Lake, Michigan
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| 02/26/2008 1:08 PM |
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| I had that trouble with Hunter for a bit. I backed off on the pressure and now he holds good points like he should. I only make them sit when I give them a treat. |
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