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06/05/2009 9:44 PM  

So Conrad is 11 months now, and while I am amazed every day by his natural ability, he's really getting on my nerves with his constant whining and whimpering. Is this a common deal with this breed?

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06/05/2009 10:36 PM  
No, my dogs rarely whine. When is your dog whining? What are the circumstances?

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06/06/2009 9:13 AM  
Shorthairs? Whine? Never.
They do have lovely singing voices, however.
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06/06/2009 11:54 AM  
Well let's see... he whines to go out, I take him out. We come back in, he whines to go out again, rinse repeat. He whines whenever I leave, and cries. He whines in his kennel. He whines if he's in the backyard and I'm inside.

It's this piercing, super high pitched whine that eats my brain. :P
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06/06/2009 2:47 PM  

My guess is he wants to be with you and you have given in to his whining which has reinforced the behavior. You will need a good bit of patience and maybe some good ear plugs to break this habit.  I would start with the wanting in and out.  You need to control when he goes in and out.  Get him into a routine.  For instance, when you get up int he morning he goes out while you fix his breakfast.  After he eats he goes back out and stays.  He does not get to come in until he is quiet.   So if he starts whining you have to ignore it.  Only let him in if he is quiet.  Same for going out, he only gets out if he behaves.  When he wants out and starts whining, I would take him and put him in a sit and make him wait several seconds.  If he gets up, put him back in the sit.  Wait for him to be sitting and quiet, then tell him good dog and let him out.  Ignore the whining and do not respond in any way to it, not even to tell him to be quiet.  Negative reinforcement is still reinforcement.  I think if you trade the whining behavior for another behavior like sitting it will help, but are also going to have to ignore the whining behavior and it will eventually fade. 

Also, how much exercise does he get?  and how old is he?


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06/06/2009 3:07 PM  
Yeh I think I've been doing most of what you've said there EXCEPT I do tell him "HUSH" when he starts the whining / yelping.

I understand the importance of the exercise with GSP's, but I think I could concentrate on increasing that time some more and see what that does. And no more negative reinforcement. Thanks :D
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06/06/2009 4:39 PM  

Keep us posted on how it goes.  There are other things that we might be able to suggest too depending on progress.  Good luck!!


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06/07/2009 8:54 AM  
Molly has never been a whiner. If she thinks I am sleeping too late she will come charging up the stairs, jump on the bed and use her tongue and wet nose to get my attention. She barks at raccoons and squirrels but little else.
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06/07/2009 1:30 PM  
one key is to not respond to it otherwise you are reinforcing the bad behavior.
rattle his kennel a little to get him to stop. open and then pop the door closed when he's doing it. then when he's been quite for a good 30 seconds reward him by giving him what he wants (in or out respectively).
that worked by my dog. he waits quietly now. only time I don't ignore is when he might need to "go" to the ban-yo!
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06/07/2009 7:43 PM  
Some are just whinners.


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06/09/2009 6:43 AM  

My GSP is 7 months.  She will definitely whine a bit here and there.  In most cases I find she is whining for a specific reason: in the car and needs to use the bathroom (long trips only), wants a drink of water, is overly tired, etc.

I second everyone elses opinion.  Don't reinforce the whining.  However, I do try to ignore her (no talking, or "it's ok...", etc.) while taking some indirect action to stop the behavior.  This may mean stopping the car to take her out...then right back in and on our way, getting fresh water, giving her some kennel time-out...I wait until she's quiet, if only for a second, and only then do I talk to her..."Gracie, let's get a drink, c'mon!"

I don't really mind the whining as long as it has some definite meaning and isn't excessive.  For the outside thing, I'd rather know she needs to be let out to "get busy" than having it occur on my floor.

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06/10/2009 10:07 AM  
Leena is a whiner and it drives me insane. If she is bored or is in the car and gets excited, she whines. In the car, I ignore her. In the house I use a water bottle which she hates. She stops whining as soon as she see's it lol

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06/10/2009 8:01 PM  
oh mine whines when hes in the crate, or if i got him on a leash next to me and my wife goes to the kitchen, he whines. he whines when he is on the leash outside for bathroom time...

my dog is definately a whiner...
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06/11/2009 7:19 AM  
Whinning in itslf is not an issue,it's how long it takes for it to stop.
This is temperment.


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06/18/2009 12:52 PM  
I am blessed with non-vocal GSP!

Had a visit from my cousin last weekend, she was in the crate for two hours and he didn't even know I had a dog until I let her out! Even then, no barking, no whining, just a lot of...jumping.

She sure knows how to shake, rattle & roll in the crate though when she's not pleased to be in it.

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