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04/08/2009 9:26 PM  

 The wife and I took Remi out for his run and he found some quail but didn't point them. They first few were in a wheat field and he busted the covey. Just to remind everyone, Remi is for hunting only. I bought him Feb. 14th. He was a year old on March 27th.  I disregarded it to a wrong wind. He did chase one of the birds in flight but quickly returned. I went ahead and took him over to the area where the bird went down. He sniffed around for a minute but didn't find the bird. As we walked down the row of trees we could hear quail running and chirping. This dog stopped and listened and took off in their direction and busted them too. My question is, do you guys think he will ever point and what should be my next step? On the way home there were several quail in the road. I pulled over and the birds went in the brush. I got him out and put a check cord on him. He never chased the birds but never pointed them either. They kept getting up in front of us but wouldn't fly far so we stayed in chase. When we could see them he watched them and listened for them. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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04/09/2009 7:01 AM  
How much bird exposure does he have? He won't point until he understands whats going on. Are you doing your training yourself or getting help from a pro or anyone else? Have you used a book or DVD so that you have a method for bird introduction and a training progression? What about gun introduction? This has to be done properly so that he does not become gunshy. What are your expectations for training? What level do you want to acheive? Going to run test/trials or just hunt?
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04/09/2009 9:48 AM  

It sounds to me like he needs a whole lot more exposure to birds.  How is he supposed to know that those birds are game unless and until you have done some work to show him what is/isn't game?


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04/09/2009 12:04 PM  

MillerClemson to my knowledge these may be the first birds he has ever seen. I got him from a kid in the city that didn't have time for him but said the guy he got him from had started him with a gun, to keep him from being gun shy... I am doing the training myself, so far. I have never trained a dog. The other dog I have was started and I just finished him up to hunt the way I like. he already had the basics. So this is my first time and I was hoping that it isn't too late for Remi. I didn't think a year old was too late but may be..... I just want a good hunting dog. He doesn't have to be a great obedience dog but I do want him to mind. He seems to be a quick learner as far as sit and come. Thanks for the help....

WildRose, Remi's pedigree goes back to some of the bloodline you have. On his dads side is Dixielands Rustic Oakie. Do you guys think a DVD would be my best bet to teach me to teach him. I guess I assumed pointing was instincial which it probably is they just have to know what to point. Thanks again for the help.. Any good DVD ideas will be a big help..

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04/09/2009 12:17 PM  
The best thing would be to find someone in your local area who has experience. Think of it like t his. You can read all the books bout welding in the library and still not understand HOW to weld. Dog training is the same thing. There are lots of things you just have to learn by seeing and doing.

See if there are any AKC or NAVHDA clubs in your area or a local pro that can work with you and your dog.

If all else fails Try and find a couple of good books, "The best way to train your birddog" Tarrant/Delmar Smith, and "Mastering the German Shorthaired Pointer". Two very old boks that have been out of print for a long time but you can find used copies occasionally on Amazon.

Read those, they'll teach you a lot about dogs. Then you can if you have no other options try something like the perfection kennels dvd's.


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04/13/2009 7:36 AM  
I am in the same boat and probably was less informed as I had never even hunted with a dog. I bought the perfect start DVD and have started with the leash training. I also just went and visited a club and I can tell you that will be where some of the best knowledge will come from, Folks who have been training and working with the dogs for long time.

As for too old I don't think so, I have heard many people say that they don't start serious training until then?
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04/13/2009 12:17 PM  

Definitely not too old.  I would 2nd the suggestions to find a pro or experienced trainer to help you.  My pup just got back from our trainer/breeder (AHGSP) and I got 4mos of homework to do before a trip out west and then she goes back to be finished steady to through the shot and fall.  I have the PS/PF dvds listed and have used them to help understand different concepts.  Also much easier to understand what is being done seeing it on the dvd rather than just reading instructions from a book.  I did read 2 or 3 books before I even got my pup though which contained a lot of good info.  Where are you located?  Depending on where you are you should be able to get some trainer suggestions from others on this site.  Even if you can get an evaluation, and help getting started it might be worth it. 

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04/15/2009 7:10 AM  

 Thanks guys!  I'm in Sw OK and there's not much around here. I have never heard of a dog trainer in my area but there may be one. I also agree that seeing training on DVD is a lot easier than reading it out of a book. Common sense goes a long ways... Thanks again..

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