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Zoeys RoseyUser is Offline


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02/14/2009 10:46 PM  

I have a TriTronics G3 training collar with beeper for my 3 year old girl and since I've had it the sounds spook her.  The sounds from turning it on is all it takes to have her on my heels all day.  It's not correction because I used a borrowed collar for earlier training and didn't have any problem with that.  Any suggestions?

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02/15/2009 6:08 AM  
What happens if you strap it on with it turned off?

Francine


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02/15/2009 8:30 AM  

Also, I looked to see if you could possibly turn the sounds off, but in this model it didn't give that option.  It did say there are 4 different sounds.  Does she respond this way on all 4 sounds?

I bought the Flyway G2 Exp by Tritronics and it has the option to add a beeper (which I have never done).  So, you might want to look at exchanging the collar for one that doesn't have the sound unless you want it. 


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02/15/2009 9:33 AM  

Just the sight of it is enough now for her to cowwer.  I've tried getting her in the field and all excited about the hunt, then putting it on later but with the same results.  And once I've taken it back off she's done for the day.  She hunts great without it until the action gets hot.  Then its off to the races.  This has gone on since I bought it and tried to aclimate her to the sound of the beeper.  I've stuffed the beeper with cotton and wrapped in duct tape to muffle the sound.

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02/15/2009 10:32 AM  

Do you know someone who you can borrow a different ecollar from and try it.  I would be curious if she reacts the same to a different ecollar.

The only other thing I could think of is at home in her yard take the collar out, but don't put it on her.  Just put it on the ground.  If she turns to look at it give her a treat and tell her good dog.  Progressively work up to touching it and then putting it on her.  Always treating her when she responds. Don't fuss at her or turn it on. Do this until she will wear it around the house.  Next would be to take her somewhere with it on her, but off.  Keep progressing to more challenging scenarios and longer perionds of time.  I think I would also write the manufacturer to see if you can disconnect the sound.  Or if you get good response with this collar off, but another ecollar that does not have the sound and use it.

How does she react to the stimulus?  Is she ok with that?


Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

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02/15/2009 10:59 AM  

She responded appropriately with the original collar but since I got the new collar we haven't gotten to that point.

I'm going to try the different collar first and see what that does.  Are there collars that have a "vibrate" setting.  I checked the Cabelas website and found none.  I thought that SportDog made one.

This has been a real learning experience for me.  This is my first dog I've ever had and besides this one problem with her I couldn't ask for a better dog. And if it were only me hunting with her I would be able to deal with it.  If anyone has suggestions to keep her from ranging to far without the need for a training collar that would be my ultimate goal. She's been a breeze to train so I'm not too concerned that she would pick up something new. 

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02/15/2009 11:32 AM  
Some questions: if you put the original collar on, the borrowed one , she is fine?
What type of collar conditioning did you do? Are you following a training program?How was she trained with the collar and by who?

If the simple act of putting it on or hearing the sound of it makes her react this way, then a first response would be someone was to harsh with the collar. A dog's temperment plays a hugh,hugh role in how a collar is used.
I would not use the collar for about a year then try again or you could just go about training her the old fashioned way, w/o a collar. It is a nice back up to reach out at a distance but, you have lost that window of opportunity.
When my dogs see the collar or even hear the buckle clanging they are jumping for joy. They know it means something fun is going to happen.
Good luck,
Francine


"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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02/15/2009 5:20 PM  

pixie is dead on.  My dogs also get excited when I get the ecollar out as they too know it means we are going to do something fun.  The only one of my dogs though that is still wearing an ecollar is my 8 MO male, Ringo.  Belle and Halo are fine now without the ecollar.  You might take a look at some of the other threads that discussed training with an ecollar as it may help you.


Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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02/15/2009 9:26 PM  
Hey Zoey,

Try just the collar without the box on it and just put a bell on it for awhile. It worked for my female that I was way to hard on with the e/collar. She just loves the sound of that bell.

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02/17/2009 6:46 AM  
I would just condition her to the collar that its not bad. Turn it on and lay it around. Turn it on and put a chunk of chicken near it. Turn it on and lay it near her bed. Turn that collar into everyday life. Maybe even start with a cotton ball over the speaker to tone it down a bit. Not much different than a dog that does not like its crate or a leash or even birds in its mouth.....just gotta be creative and teach him that its a good thing and nothing to be afraid off.

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02/17/2009 8:05 AM  
Range is built in. you can set up situations where you plant birds close together about 100' apart in a zig-zag pattern, and begin the planting at the begining of the field within the first 50'. Do this over and over and she will begin to realize she doesn't have to range far to find birds. You need to know tho, is she searching or is she running around? If the other dogs are finding birds closer, ones she blew past, you need to ask why. If there are birds in the field there is no reason for a dog to leave that field. A dog's nose is supposed to pull the dog into the birds.
My suggestion stays the same, leave the collar out until next fall, then introduce her to it again in a more passive manner.


"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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