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Trey
SW Iowa
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| 07/24/2008 7:45 AM |
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Well, I can't seem to be able to come back to this page from PB, so will try this again. Let's see what we have: OK, this is Johnny on the ab, I had just run him for an hour with my inviational dog and as we came back into the 'yard' I popped it up 'just to see what would happen'
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Trey
SW Iowa
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| 07/24/2008 8:01 AM |
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Here is the full picuture with my invitational dog melting in the heat (he had just run an hour in 80 degrees with the humidity about the same).
In case you are wondering, that is a trap range. I had the ab set up for another dog that I am just starting backing with and wanted it to be seen.
And Jake on the autobacker last month
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Trey
SW Iowa
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Posts:516
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| 07/24/2008 8:10 AM |
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This was neat. This is Hildi, she is a Jess daughter of of a local 'meat' bitch. I just got her in to get ready for her NA test. I had some launchers in the field, and on our way to it I popped up 'Otto' to see what she would do.
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gspx4
Mankato, MN
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| 07/24/2008 2:16 PM |
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| Never saw a GSP needing training to honor a point. Mine have all done it naturally, geez I have been lucky over the years. I like having natural instinct develop than human training, maybe that is the difference between champions and plain old hunting dogs with skills. IMO |
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To Charlie, thanks for 15 years of companionship. I miss you old dog. |
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High Voltage
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| 07/24/2008 3:32 PM |
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Great pic's Trey! The dogs are looking hot, kinda makes me glad I'm working in air conditioning.
gspx4 - If you read the post she just pop the backer to see what they would do, I'm willing to bet all of her GSP's are natural backers. Now some of the dogs she gets in for training might not be, but then they're not all GSP's
All 4 of our GSP's are natural backers and one is the brother to Hildi in the last pic. We first saw him back when he was about 3-4 months old. We were out hunting and had him down with our other 2. Boomer was up on a berm and stopped to take a dump. Rebel was back behind us and came running. When he saw Boomer he slammed a beautiful back, and I didn't have my camera! |
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Trey
SW Iowa
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| 07/24/2008 6:08 PM |
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Well, gspx4, every dog in the post backs naturally.
All of my dogs wear ecollars everytime they are on the ground, none were stopped in these pictures, in fact the pups hasn't even been contioned yet and has never had one used, just wears it. We have many deer in the area, and I like to know I can stop a chase not matter what, it will save them from being hbc or shot.
Also, they aren't trained to honor, the steadiness after the flush is what is trained. And if all of your dogs are steady to flush and shot and fall naturally, my hat is off to you, you have remarkable animals.
How was that everyone, you should be proud of me! |
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Almost Heaven GSP
Springfield, WV
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| 07/24/2008 11:42 PM |
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You done good!
I notice the launcher in front of the AB; Do you fly a bird and then stand the AB up Trey? Stand the AB and then fly a bird?
I've never used an AB and instead, will set up a Brit cutout in front of a launcher. Dog comes around the corner, notices the Brit "on point" and pauses, launch the bird knocking down the cutout, let them watch the Pig fly off and then heel them away.
WHY A Brit you ask? If a Pointing dog will back a Brit..... they'll back anything! |
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Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.
Bruce Shaffer
Almost Heaven GSP's
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Trey
SW Iowa
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| 07/25/2008 6:47 AM |
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LOL, so true!
Depends on the dog, I don't use the ab very much. I had it set out to work a gw I have in that is going home and the owner wanted to know how his backing was (he isn't finished, just knows whoa and is ffed, but he is going home, I took him as a filler and now need the room, and he is hot and miserable) anyway. If I use it, I will pop it up and flush the bird at almost the same time (I want the dog thinking he flushed the bird), next time out I will wait until the backing dog moves to flush the bird (again, making him believe he screwed up by moving). If the dog stands there nice I will pop and shoot the bird and let them retrieve it. Some dogs that are either not naturally backers or have become so competive that they blink or steal back from a real dog, I will pop it up when they are very close, the surprise of it stops all the the worst ones, then I will shoot the bird, let them retrieve it (as I do with dogs just starting out, but I do it very few times, then sometimes as surprise wether it be the ab or a real dog I will let them have a retrieve for nice job, not too many as I don't want them expecting it, just enough to keep them on thier toes and looking good). The advantages to an ab over a cutout, you can place it anywhere, and you can lay it down as you heel the dog off, they don't look over their shoulder and wonder why 'auto' is still standing there. I generally will only use it a time or two, and lots of dogs I never have, I usually have a finished dog, or two, or three laying around, sometime it is just hard to handle them both. |
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High Voltage
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| 07/25/2008 6:49 AM |
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| Yep ya did good! |
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