what would be a good e collar for training and hunting what would be best for gsp thanx welder

I use the TriTronics.  I bought it from Cabela's, but here is a link to the one I use.  I haven't had any problems whether the dogs are in water or far away it works.  Understand, I do not hunt my dogs, but we do allot of hikingin the high country of Colorado and New Mexico as well as beach combing on the Texas coast.  I tried other collars and this one is the best I have found for range, ruggedness and it is water proof.  It also handles up to 3 dogs.

www.gundogsupply.com/tritronics-flyway-special-g2-exp.html

I have used Tri-Tronics for over 25 years. I have tried other brands but I always go back to them. I think they are the best e-collars made. And, they are made and serviced in the US.

tc

Ditto - don't spend your money on anything else.

Jean