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pixie bee
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| 10/07/2010 5:51 AM |
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DKV AZP is the older dog breed test. We have completed solms with a prize I last year and there is no need to enter AZP. I like to test my dogs in AZP b/c I like to see where they are a year after solms. Testing, for me, is not something we do and be gald when it's over and we made it thru the system.
We recieved a prize II due to Bregon not delivering to hand the rabbit,I had to walk over and take it from him, he was about 8' from me. In europe, delivery to hand with a sit is a must. Otherwise we recieved all 4s.
The test is a solms judged to a higher level of performance due to a dog being older and having more experience.
A 4 in water for a solms dog can be a 2 or 3 to an AZP dog.
The categories are field (gun sensitivity,nose,search point,steady to flush), fur drag(350yards),feather drag(150 yards),water gun sensitivity,blind retreive,duck search,
temperment evaluation,cooperation,obedience - these are judged the moment you enter the parking lot until the senior judge announces the end of the test,
desire,manner of retreive and manner of hunting.
Here are some pictures from the test:
delivery of sensitivity duck

after feather drag







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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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MOOSE1 Fruitport, MI
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| 10/07/2010 2:16 PM |
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| nice job! |
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snips n.ga.
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| 10/07/2010 5:16 PM |
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Great job!!!! You should be VERY Proud!!! |
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zodiakgsps NW PA
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| 10/07/2010 7:13 PM |
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| GREAT job, congrats!!! Love the pics as well, Bregon looks great. |
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pixie bee
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| 10/08/2010 4:17 AM |
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Thank you.
We train for these tests on weekends only and not being the best trainer and short on time I go in hoping more than knowing.
My 0 is sticking and the drag distances mentioned above were incorrect. rabbit drag 350 yards(with 2 bends),feather drag 150 yards(with 1 bend).(just a tab bit of a difference)
This particular test posed several challenges. I am very proud Bregon rolled with the punches and performed well.
I put my dogs thru hell to prepare for these tests. In training they are presented with almost every concievable obstacle I can think of. At a test you don't know what the conditions will bring and the dog MUST perform.
It's a fun test and the dogs love the training.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 10/09/2010 7:28 AM |
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| Congratulations!! Bregon looks awesome in the pictures. I know you are very proud of him. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
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TessaGA Georgia
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| 10/18/2010 9:36 AM |
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Nice, congrats! I know the German tests are harder, so those are quite some achievements. When I was in Germany last month I ran into a retriever trainer training a 10-month old lab and its owner. I overheard the trainer saying that he does not expect the dog to deliver the bird to hand, but that "the hunters" insist on the delivery being perfect in every way, not just to hand, but also in a perfectly positioned sit-stay. He said no offense but he just wants the dog close enough so he can take the bird with ease. The testing standards there are VERY strict. He invited me to watch a testing day for a variety of hunting breeds, and the event was only a 10 minute WALK from my parents house. Unfortunately, I was scheduled to leave town that weekend and there was no way to change plans, so I missed the opportunity, I was so disappointed! |
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pixie bee
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| 10/18/2010 10:50 AM |
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Nice time of year in Germany. Did you have nice weather?
It would have been nice to see the different breeds perform.
I am very proud of Bregon and myself, this is team work - we pass or fail together.
Dogs feel stress, too. It was a tough drag. People will tell you the high grass is easier - it's not. The rabbit was amost 4 lbs, and bloody. It was a hot point in the temps for the day, no breeze,totally independent work. We were the only dog to have a drag in this high grass - we were running out of land and there was a real young solms dog still to go, so I agreed to the conditions. I know what my dogs can handle, he did good but as I saw, he protested just a teeny weeny bit. 
He was right. |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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TessaGA Georgia
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| 10/18/2010 11:02 AM |
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Yes, the weather was perfect. I saw many hunting breeds over there, one GSP, several Vizslas and several Muensterlaenders, but unfortunately, I never saw them at work. I did hike with llamas though! I hate testing of any kind and that is probably why I am dragging my feet with the SH. Well, not really, but I am kinda glad we're not testing this year, watching all my friends anxiously putting the finishing touches on their dogs. We have a big NAVHDA test coming up in December, mostly UTs. |
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pixie bee
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| 10/18/2010 11:13 AM |
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I'm not a competitive person, well I am, but with myself. Training for a test is a lot of fun. Fun train for UPT, it's a blast. A dog who is competent at UPT is still a qualty gun dog - which actually translates to quality companion. Something about the mental challenge for the dog. |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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pixie bee
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| 10/20/2010 6:12 AM |
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Thought I'd add one more picture of the day.
A little down time between water work.

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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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TessaGA Georgia
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| 10/20/2010 9:39 AM |
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Ha, love that picture! "Down" time ... hehe. |
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jlp8cornell Ithaca NY
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| 10/20/2010 11:04 AM |
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| Congrats and great pics! |
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Jen http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=2440 |
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pixie bee
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| 10/20/2010 11:26 AM |
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Thanks. Francine |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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versatilefan
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| 11/08/2010 9:28 AM |
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Posted By pixie bee on 10/07/2010 5:51 AM
We recieved a prize II due to Bregon not delivering to hand the rabbit,I had to walk over and take it from him, he was about 8' from me. In europe, delivery to hand with a sit is a must. Otherwise we recieved all 4s.
Pixie
Something is not right in the aove . According to your account, Bregon should have received a Prize I. The 2 in the rabbit drag would be averaged with the other retrieves which were 4's so the Bringen overall score would have been a 3. That should have entitled him to a Prize 1, not a Prize II. |
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pixie bee
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| 11/08/2010 9:52 AM |
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Not true. The rabbit drag is in -and -of itself. Even if he recieved a 4 in the other 2 retreives a 2 in rabbit lowers the prize. That's how Margitta explained it to me.
Retrieve scoring was judged strict.
What I wrote may have been misleading - we recieved 4s in all catagories except manner of retreive. |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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versatilefan
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| 11/08/2010 12:10 PM |
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You are correct when you state the rabbit drag is scored separately. However, a 2 in the rabbit drag would only have entitled Bregon to a Prize 3 since he would have had to score at least a 3(the minimum) for a Prize 2. Look at your paperwork (Prufungs-Bescheinigung) that you received at the test. I believe you will find the 2 in Art de Bringen which should have been averaged with the other two retrieving scores. If he really had all 4's in all other areas, either you or the judges made a mistake. |
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pixie bee
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| 11/08/2010 12:47 PM |
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Thank you, I will check into it. |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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been far east
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| 11/11/2011 5:00 PM |
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| That looked like a lot af fun and hard work GREAT JOB . love the duck picture, too cute hope no droppings ! l. (been far east ) |
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