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singltrakUser is Offline
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08/31/2012 4:50 PM  
You guys do realize that putting a diaper is not going to stop a determined boy of any sex don't you? All you are doing is proclaiming to the world..."my bitch is in season"... Just so you know. :)

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08/31/2012 4:56 PM  
B is not exposed to any males and has been on house arrest minus being able to ride in the car on errands and play supervised in our yard. She is in diapers indoors as I'm not looking to be cleaning blood dribbles from all over the house :)
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08/31/2012 6:44 PM  
When I had two intact females I would take my boy, Ringo, to my field trainer for a month. He had a blast, and I had a much easier time. Now Ringo is neutered so he shoots blanks, but I still keep him away when my girl is in season. It bothers her more than him because he is her favorite playmate.

Phyllis is right, males do all kinds of amazing things to get to girls in season. A diaper would be nothing to a male. Phyllis is also right about the timing. I thought the OP had said the female had been in season for longer. Typical length is at least 21 days from when they start bleeding. I would err on the side of caution.

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08/31/2012 6:44 PM  

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09/18/2012 7:24 PM  

Just an update On Hannas heat.  Shes just coming out of it but Still not out of the woods yet . Its been a LONG and heavy one.  Her body has really changed in the past month.   I think shes happy its almost over as much as I am.

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09/18/2012 8:01 PM  
Glad she's at the tail end of things. Bella is done, but we have noticed that her teats are still quite enlarged. So, we assumed that was normal for during heat, but that they would lessen again once she was done. We're still waiting...lol.

In any event, I will be glad to never have to ever go through that again. I'm glad it is over, I just wish we hadn't lost the last few great weather weeks of our summer. But, she is absolutely going to LOVE leaf piles....
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09/18/2012 9:03 PM  
The first cycle does make the girls mature physically. Their teats enlarge and can stay that way for a while, especially if they go through a false pregnancy. They will eventually go down in size, but never as small as they were before they came in season. They also often put on weight when in season. This is because their bodies are preparing for puppies. They will drop the weight after they get through their season. Glad the ladies have come through no worse for wear.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

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09/19/2012 9:46 AM  

There must be something in the air - Keely's now in season.  I'm just glad we have wooden floors and a big garden for this  

Other half's regretting encouraging her to come into his side of the bed now  I know i shouldnt laugh, it is me who does the laundry after all

 


Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx
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09/19/2012 10:18 AM  
All this talk makes me kind of regret getting a girl pup!! haha just kidding, but it sounds like its going to be quite a bit of work...
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09/19/2012 11:04 AM  
We went through it twice with Shiraz. It wasn't really that big a deal. We used an old pair of panties with a safety pin and panti-liners. Other than making sure she wasn't near any un-fixed males on her runs (she was never off-leash except in the yard, and that was under supervision) there was really no change in our daily routine.

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09/19/2012 6:11 PM  
lol no worries. It's not like I was ripping my hair out or anything. The bit of advice I will give you is NOT to bother wasting WAY too much money on the disposable diapers. Once we tossed that route to the wind, things were far less annoying. We bought two of the washable cloth diapers that fit her much better, didn't rip off, didn't wiggle out of them in the middle of the night leaving a mess on the blankets...two, so we could always have one clean and ready to be swapped out. Then, in those, you can just line them with 99 cent panty liners you can get at any store (I'm still hitting myself for buying a box at the feed store for $7 and getting home and realizing they were the exact same).

Texas Belle, Bella hasn't been able to last through the night with potty since she ended her heat cycle. She is usually waking us around 5:30 or 6 (she is used to getting up around 7:30 or 8...sometimes even later if I have the day off and she doesn't get up on her own). Would that have anything to do with her cycle? She's not having more water. I also thought maybe because she was so inactive for several weeks and now her body is readjusting to being active again...
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09/19/2012 6:13 PM  
I also meant to say, honestly the hardest part was that it was BEAUTIFUL out and the tail end of our summer and we couldn't take a woods hikes or spend a day at the beach. Just yard exercise for three + weeks was a bummer.
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09/19/2012 9:01 PM  
The hard time holding the pee could be because of her heat cycle. If it doesn't stop within a couple of weeks of the end of her cycle I would talk to the vet. She could have a UTI.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)

Yellow Rose GSPs

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09/25/2012 12:54 PM  
To me, Bella is not fully herself. My husband thinks I'm making something out of nothing and wants to give it time as usual (and usually he's right and levels out my tendency to be a typical worrier).

BUT, here's some of the things that seem a little off to me...and those of you who experience heat cycles let me know if it is totally normal while hormones are still leveling back out or if I should be concerned about false pregnancy. AND, if it does sound like the onset of false pregnancy...do I let it run its course? Or do we do something about it? We can't spay her until that over (from what I read)...

Her appetite is all kinds of weird. The first week after the end of her estrus, her appetite was back up and normal (it was low during estrus, but so was her activity level). Now, all of a sudden she is back to ignoring breakfast (she just decided to eat her serving that has been in her bowl since 7:40 am and it is 2:50 pm). Her vulva is still a little enlarged but basically close to normal, however, her teats are still very enlarged. More so than I think would just be a change from maturation. When she sits...the bottom sets actually pocket up. Though, she is not oozing or producing any milk.

She adores sleeping in our bed and encourage us to go to bed at times so she can get in bed too. She has always slept through the night with us solid as a rock, but several nights we have woken up to her having gone to living room and bedded down on her own (which is perfectly fine, just unusual for her).

She seems to be drinking a lot more water than usual, which wouldn't phase me if it were still hot, but we are actually getting cooler (though, I suppose we are getting dryer too).

I just don't know...it could all be normal. It's only been a couple of full weeks since she ended her estrus cycle...so maybe she just needs to level back out. Just never been through this since I always spayed earlier in the past. And, Yup, I'm a worrier.
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09/25/2012 2:15 PM  

Hey there fellow worrier  I'm sure more experienced posters will advise you, but i will say my experience with one girl in season - pretty much exactly the same as Bella seems to be going through.  Kintra ended up going through false pregnancy with the enlarged teats, erratic appetite, same level of activity as usual but i'm sure they're all different where that's concerned anyway.  You say she's drinking a little more water than usual? Kintra did the same but she was a really unpredictable drinker anyway (1 massive intake over 12 hours etc).  Remember that their temperature can be ever so slightly raised (within healthy limits) as part of their cycle so that could cause increased drinking, also if she's producing milk that could do so as well.  What i noticed with Kintra also was that she went off some of her usual wetter foods, but still ate the plainer, dried food - maybe Bella's not getting as much liquid through her food as normal and making up for it by drinking more.  I'm not experienced enough to advise as to whether she's going through false pregnancy, but many of the things you report could still be attributed to her heat cycle alone.

We were offered the opportunity to administer drugs to Kintra for the milk production but it calmed down of it's own accord.

Dont be fooled by my calming advice - i'm in super-worrier mode just now because Keely keeps staring at me strangely and much prefers the company of my other half  She's been like that the last couple of days, she's pro-estrus the noo!

Hugs to Bella x

Edited to add - dont worry about being a worrier, follow your gut with things like this as you know her best.


Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx
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09/25/2012 2:25 PM  
Thanks Werubbertummy. I guess that's my big question now, normal coming out of cycle behavior...or possible leading into false pregnancy. I suppose it isn't a huge deal either way. But if it is false pregnancy, I need to prepare to wait longer to schedule her spay surgery.

There really does seem to be a lack of moisture (though, we do give her a little olive oil on her food which is a dry food...and I haven't been doing that lately...so maybe I should). She also seems a little more frantic to eat grass outside when she stops long enough to decide it is a good idea. So, I am always left wondering if she is doing that for the moisture or due to tummy troubles. Her tummy was a little icky after her bday party....(OK, maybe I went overboard on the doggy cake LOL), but seems to be fine now. Solid stool.

I'll just keep my eye on her and keep my analyzing to myself. My husband thinks I look for things to worry about it :)
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10/06/2012 9:48 PM  

No worries here any more! 

Two weeks ago Hanna was one week out of her heavy 4 week cycle when I noticed  she had an eight pack  for pups. . I drove her  straight to the SPCA and signed her up to be spayed two days later.  I had to leave town suddenly a week  prior  .and had her in for a quick Bordetella and  my vets assistant said he was booked two weeks in advanced   but managed to fit me in  . ( my Brother had a heart attack and loss of oxygen to the brain. I ended up having to take him off life support. )  Nice of them to be able to fit me in.  So I had no guilt about Going to the SPCA.   I told them about my fears she might be pregnant and her being just out of heat. She was far enough along and had the surgery. They did not state if she had pups . They don't because some people get upset. Not me !  outta there.! She probably was having a false pregnacey but I didn't want to wait around to see .

So don't worry about getting Bella take care of .  Hanna had her first off  leash  run  yesterday  day 10 post surgery.It has been over six weeks and she ran like the wind ! .

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