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BEANS
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| 09/10/2008 4:26 PM |
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I know nothing about this topic...BUT thought I'd crash the thread....What would you guys consider to be Bean's color...while we're on the topic hahaha
BTW
That is one sweet GSP you have.....
Great pictures...
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singltrak
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| 09/10/2008 5:03 PM |
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Liver Roan, Patched. No doubt, there. 
Renee, Bean looks to me to be liver and white, patched and ticked, or possibly white and liver, patched and ticked. Kinda depends on if she is lighter or darker. BTW, hugs to the Bean. We finally got Emma's foot healed up after three months of e-collar, meds, wraps, soaks...you name it!. Feet are the worst, specially the back ones!
Best wishes,
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BEANS
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| 09/10/2008 5:47 PM |
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OMG isn't there an easier answer
I tell people ( vet- kennel- traveling kennel peeeps ) she's a GERMAN SHORTHAIR POINTER....some people do not recognize GSP..ie Arizona this year.... Bean only spent 4 hours in that kennel....NOTBcuz of them..I just missed her.....Bean is not an every day VET visit...so I'm not pissed, when the receptionist calls her a BOY ...SO does Bean sound Masculine ? NAME ?
My last vet...knew us TOOOOOO WELLLLLL.....god rest the soul of Ruger
Oh ya he was a YELLOW LAB
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singltrak
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| 09/10/2008 7:10 PM |
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Just in the wrong part of AZ....you shoulda gone closer to Jean's territory. Plenty of GSP pups in the Phoenix area (some of mine too). Guaranteed they know what Shorthairs are in Pima County.
Welllll, I dunno, but out here calling someone a Bean or a Beaner is not a very nice connotation. :J, maybe Beanie or something that doesn't sound quite like that would be better.... Actually, does she CARE if anyone thinks she's a boy? My Emma sure doesn't.
One thing that works really well for the toe is EMT Gel. Check it out online (my apologies for hijacking this thread, also).
Back to washing my liver roan, patched and ticked special for this weekend...
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Wpevey
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| 09/10/2008 7:30 PM |
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So why liver and roan as opposed to liver and white, just out of curiosity. granted she is a bit darker now than in thos pics. And what about ticked, would she still be considered ticked? |
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| 09/10/2008 7:43 PM |
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I would call your pup a liver/roan also. Roan means her brown and white hairs are fairly evenly interspersed. Liver and white means more white - or at least it does to me. Go look at our dogs at www.desertrosekennel.com . Willow, Thunder and Teejay are liver and white. Hemi is what I would consider liver and hot ticked. Look particularly at his legs. His liver and white hairs on his legs are NOT evenly interspersed like your girls. His dark hairs are grouped together in a ticking pattern - aka, spots. Then go to the "grandpuppies" page and look for Stella. She is what I would consider a liver roan like your girl.
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Wpevey
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| 09/10/2008 8:27 PM |
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Yeah that helps some, I was gonna call her liver and white, patched and ticked. But i see what your saying. Just need some clarification on what they define as roan or ticked. My girl is actually a bit darker now than in those photos (2weeks older i guess), she looks alot like Rupert does in your photos. |
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Marie
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MOOSE1
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| 09/11/2008 5:11 AM |
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She is DEFINATLY a liver roan.
Reason being she has a liver base with white hairs coming through. That is not ticking it is roaning. TIcking is more of a "spot" versus white hairs sparsly through the liver coat.
The way the difference between live/white and white/liver was explained to me is you have to see what color you think their base coat is. Like Moose in my avatar he has a white base. So he is a white/liver patched and ticked. I would consider rocky a white/liver patched and ticked as well.
Bean I would put as a liver/white patched and ticked as she is the liver base with more of a white ticking....
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| 09/11/2008 7:32 AM |
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She will probably darken considerably as she gets older. Really bringing out the roan.
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DesertRoseKennel
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| 09/11/2008 7:47 AM |
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Regardless of what the AKC says, Rocky is liver and white patched and ticked. He is not a roan. |
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singltrak
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| 09/11/2008 8:55 AM |
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Right on, Jean !
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KDTsGSPs
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| 09/11/2008 4:49 PM |
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| All of these puppies should be registered as Liver, Roan, Ticked & Patched |
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Marie
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| 09/11/2008 11:39 PM |
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So to sum all of this up: Wpevey's Pup is the darkest in color being "Liver Roan" = liver based with white hairs coming thur
Bean girl is the next lighter color being" Liver/White patched and Ticked" = Liver based with ticking coming thur.
Moose and Rocky are lighter in color yet being " White/ liver patched and ticked" = white base
Thunder is the lightest with alot of white, alot more white than Rocky or Moose, so how would you differentiate the degrees of whiteness? |
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DesertRoseKennel
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| 09/12/2008 8:01 AM |
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There is no way on the paperwork to differentiate degrees of whiteness. It's certainly not a perfect system. |
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MOOSE1
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| 09/12/2008 10:04 PM |
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Posted By DesertRoseKennel on 09/12/2008 8:01 AM
There is no way on the paperwork to differentiate degrees of whiteness. It's certainly not a perfect system.
Actualy this is not true. When I had to register Moose here were my choices for his coloration:
White and Liver
Liver and White
Same with the litter we had last fall. Our options for them were:
White and Liver
Liver and White
Liver Roan
Liver Roan was thrown in there cause mom was a liver roan.
AKC bases the color choices on what color the parents are. They only give you the choices that could be possible out of those two parents. Now if you are going to register with the AKC through PAL/ILP then that may not give you color options. But I know for a fact that our litters reg. papers along with Moose and Tundra's papers had the options of chooseing those variations of liver and white. I didn't understand it when I first got Moose so called the breeder to ask.
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