weerubbertummy Ayrshire, Scotland
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| 10/25/2012 5:19 AM |
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....ok so as the week goes on i check on a variety of uk sites and rescue sites as i've always done only to discover that Keely's breeder is pairing the dam and sire again for the last time so after lots of discussion and agonising (we hadnt planned to add another until later next year at least) we decided we couldnt pass up the opportunity to have another girl from that breeder and that pairing. So, hopefully we'll have another girlie in February next year. This is so exciting but agonising knowing that it'll feel like a lifetime waiting, but Keely's obedience just keeps improving but i would like the time (14/15 weeks approx) to prepare her and us for our new arrival.
So i was wondering if anyone can give any advice on this seeing as neither of us has ever done this before - i know it's a well-worn subject but i still cant use the search tool on here. Any help would be appreciated. |
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Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx |
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Nancy D No. Lower MI - Gaylord Area
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| 10/25/2012 6:31 AM |
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| No help as I haven't had this situation, but I have the feeling that you will work through it just fine. Sounds like a great start to a new year, it's the waiting that's going to be hard. |
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Splat Illinois (Northern)
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| 10/25/2012 6:51 AM |
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I never did anything to prepare... Blitz (my oldest) was well socialized and never had issues with any other dogs... He went with when we picked up Donner cuz they were from the same breeder and they wanted to see Blitz... so the 2 met in the truck... After Donner died and we got Striker we just let them meet in the back yard... Some people like to do it on neutral ground... but I never did... |
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everbell Kanata, ON
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| 10/25/2012 7:20 AM |
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We had Bo meet Shiraz at the breeder's (Shiraz's turf). Then when we brought her home, we had them meet at my MIL and we took them home in the same car. Not sure what difference it made. In our case, since Shiraz was older, she just took control and Bo happily let her. I think if Keely is well-socialized (which I think she is) she will probably LOVE having a buddy. |
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Joce and Rich Bogart and Shiraz (GSPs) Roxane (RIP: 1995-2009) and Tiger Lily (Cats) The Everbell Adventures |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 10/25/2012 8:17 AM |
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I have never done anything special when getting a new puppy. I introduce my gang to the puppy in the backyard keeping the puppy on a leash so the older dogs can sniff and great and I have control over the puppy. I have never had any issues. Shorthairs really prefer having other shorthairs around so I doubt you will have any issues. The one think you might do is give the breeder something to put in with the puppies and momma that you can bring home with the new puppy. That should help ease the transition if she has a cuddly to sleep with that smells like her littermates. I buy the cheap baby blankets and put them in with the puppies and then give my puppy buyers each a baby blanket to take home with there puppy. They also get a puppy toy, puppy collar and a puppy pack with all the puppies info and lot's of puppy pictures, suggested reading, etc. Not all breeders do that, but it makes me feel better that my babies are getting sent off the best way possible. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
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weerubbertummy Ayrshire, Scotland
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| 10/25/2012 8:44 AM |
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Thanks. From what i remember the breeder gave us part of a blanket which had been in the whelping box with them. We'll probably be visiting not long after they're born (due around xmas day) so i might give him something a bit more substantial to put in a few days before we pick her up. The other thing i wondered about was the fact that we've got the 4 hour journey down there again. I would imagine that we'll do the same as last time and go down the night before and pick her up early the next day before coming back up. Any suggestions for her being in the car with Keely in close proximity for 4 hours, or is that maybe going to be a little too daunting? All these rookie questions - you'd think we were picking up our first dog  |
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Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 10/25/2012 9:48 AM |
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I would put them in crates next to each other, or at least put the puppy in a crate. Keely is going to be very curious though so you might want to let them get to know each other before you start home. I would still introduce them with the puppy on a leash and Keely off leash. I don't think there will be any issues except the normal GSP exuberance, but you don't want that in the car when you are driving home. I actually had this issue when I picked up Ringo. I had Halo at a show in Houston and Ringo's breeder was in Houston, so I picked him up on the way home. I put Ringo in the crate and left Halo in her normal seat in my mini-van. I had absolutely no issues. When I stopped to let them potty I walked them separately. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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Splat Illinois (Northern)
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| 10/25/2012 10:01 AM |
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Well when we took Blitz with us he was trained to stay in the back seat so that is where he was, no kennel... and Donner the puppy sat on my lap in the front... we didn't use a kennel for either... they both were curious of each other but we made them follow rules Blitz had to stay in the back and puppy on my lap... We only had a 45-60 minute drive... Not sure if you normally kennel Keely in the car or not but I think you leave her loose which I would do since that is what she is used to... you may want to bring a kennel for the puppy that way it has it's safe place... |
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weerubbertummy Ayrshire, Scotland
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| 10/25/2012 12:28 PM |
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Thanks so much for the input - the journey logistics present a pretty specific (potential) problem, esp as it's 4 hours. I could put Keely in kennels overnight but not keen to as i feel there will be enough upheaval when the pup comes without having her spend the night away from us beforehand.
She's used to being behind a dog guard in the defender but we'll need to take the old discovery on this journey so no dog guard in that. I thought of maybe using this old-faithful hand-me-down soft crate for the pup and sitting in the back seat next to it (as i did with Kintra then Keely) and allow Keely free reign to go where she wants (within reason ).


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Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx |
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Marie Wisconsin
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| 10/25/2012 2:00 PM |
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Just to add another thought on adding a second dog, I read in a book once, it is best to add an opposite sex. So if you have a girl add a boy. I had a 10 year old girl Snickers when we added Tornado 12 month old rescue Rocky GSP boy!! No problems, Snickers put him in his place right on the spot. Snickers was a one on energy and Rocky was 10 on energy so they really complimented each other and got along fine. They gave each other what each other needed.
Most recently a friend of mine added another female dog to her present female and male dog pack. The female dogs did not get along. Both of the girl dogs loved her boy dog.The females would just growl at each other when too close in the house. In the end my friend had to send the newly added female back as it did not work out. It depends on each individual dog so you have to be careful when you add another addition. Good luck. Best wishes. |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 10/25/2012 4:06 PM |
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| I have always had just females until 4 years ago and never have had issues. I think it is more the dogs personality/temperament and not as much the sex of the dog. Also, with Keely so young and you are adding a puppy I would expect it to be a non-event. One thing I forgot to mention is I set up the pack order by always putting Belle's food first, then Halo and then the 2 youngsters. I do the same thing when I give them an antler. Same thing with the crates or dog beds. I show no preference to the puppy. When I train, all get the training, etc. I also continue to spend time with all my dogs and I have something special I do with each one. Just relax. You won't have any issues. Shorthairs are very social and love having a shorthair family. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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Marie Wisconsin
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| 10/25/2012 5:45 PM |
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To clarify : My friends Dogs who had the problem were adult Salukis. She was adding a 7 year old Adult female Saluki to her already pack of 7 yrold female Saluki and 3 year old male Saluki. Those adult Female Salukis flat out did not get along. I read this article long ago I think it was about adding a puppy in the home of a Senior Dog it would be best to add an opposite sex pup.Snickers Lab/Chese was 10 and Rocky was 12 months GSP wild puppy. German Shorthair pups may be better adding new to homes than other breeds can be, like my friend experienced trying to add an adult Female Saluki. |
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Marie and Rocky, a tall, high energy GSP http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab18/Annette_Merryfield/100_0285.jpg?t=1287205231 |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 10/25/2012 6:57 PM |
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| Marie it was probably more because they were all adult dogs. It is always easier to add a puppy to the pack than another adult dog. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
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"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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Splat Illinois (Northern)
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| 10/26/2012 6:28 AM |
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When I said kennel I meant like a cage or crate not away at a kennel... not sure if that was misunderstood... I think what you describe will work just fine you in the back seat with the pup in a soft crate and the other free roam... so exciting! The wait is gonna be killer! |
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weerubbertummy Ayrshire, Scotland
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Smylinacha Connecticut
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| 10/27/2012 6:10 PM |
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Congrats on your decision to get another pup!  |
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weerubbertummy Ayrshire, Scotland
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| 10/28/2012 11:03 AM |
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Thanks It's amazing how much more determined i am in my leash training now that we've committed to getting another - Keely's getting there but i'll need to give myself a kick up the butt if i dont want 2 of them pulling me in different directions 
Does anyone know how to undo itallics? I think i pressed shift or function and something else by accident with my big sausage fingers
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Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx |
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