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Lola GirlUser is Offline
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07/10/2012 12:06 PM  

Hello! Afer reading this forum and seeing some great advice and love for our pups, I thought I would see if anyone has gone through the situation below.

Lola, our 17mo pup has recently started shaking her head.  It isnt in a way that she is trying to get something out of her ear. It is a very small back and forth shake where only her head moves. (reminds me of when our hands shake because we are nervous or have had too much caffine). It lasts about 5-10 seconds. It has happened twice Sunday and once yesterday that we have seen, Other than that is is acting.eating/drinking normal, and her energy levels havent changed..

Of course we have called our vet to ask questions but were waiting to hear back from him. Not sure whether this is something to freak out about or just observe, or if it will continue to happen. We are trying to have the video ready in case she does it again to show the vet.

Has anyone ever experienced this in their pup? Thanks in advance for any advice!

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07/10/2012 1:52 PM  
Hi and welcome! I don't want to alarm you, but definitely contact your vet. (which you have I see). My cat started doing this as a result of what turned out to be a tumor in her brain causing nerve damage. At first I thought little of it ( maybe just like we would get an eye twitch). The tumor would have been removable, but since she was also diabetic she could not heal from surgeries. She was 18 and had a great life so they removed what they could and I selfishly hung on to her until she showed her last straw of not eating.

Should it be serious, the good thing is your pup is young yet and maybe you're catching it if anything early ! Keep us posted!
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07/10/2012 1:58 PM  
I hope it's nothing as serious as a tumor. It could be a form of epilepsy maybe.
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07/10/2012 2:30 PM  
I hope it's not a tumor. Could be some type of seizure though? Definitely get that vet to call you back!
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07/10/2012 3:11 PM  
I feel bad, as I didn't mean to suggest it would be a tumor...more so just not to overlook like I did for a while. I hope you hear nothing but good news from your vet!
Lola GirlUser is Offline
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07/10/2012 3:39 PM  

 Thanks for all the concern and good vibes! we have an appt with the vet tomorrow so will give an update then.

Trying not to get too concerned, read many different articles and it would be anything really. I am hoping since she is so young, it's not too serious!!

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07/10/2012 4:51 PM  

Hi. My Callie had this start after she started on Sentinel. There are some reports of this happening to other dogs from what I found on the internet.  She is now on Trifexis and has had no issues. I also have her on a grain free diet and knock on wood she has not had any head tremors since. It is also possible that your pup got some sand or something in her ear. Praying for a healthy visit with your vet.

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07/11/2012 6:32 AM  
Waiting to hear what the vet has to say. Prayers and positive thoughts that it is nothing serious.
Lola GirlUser is Offline
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07/11/2012 9:19 AM  
Good morning!

An update on Lola. We spoke with our vet and he referred to her shaking as a little head tremor. He said almost anything can trigger them, inner ear infection, change in diet, low qualty food, food allergy, medicine, etc.

He said he has never known of a GSP who had epilepsy or treated one for seizures (makes us feel better). Though those conditions could exist they arent as common as other they are in other breeds. He said it could have been something that happened a few times and may never happen again, but to be alert and keep an eyes on her and if we see it happen or can video it to let him know and we will go from there.

The only thing that had changed in her diet we some rawhides I had given her, so we threw those out, maybe she had some reaction to them.

Thanks for the good thoughts, hopefully she will not have anymore in the future!
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07/11/2012 10:10 AM  
I hope you don't see it anymore! You know, we gave Bella a couple of rawhides and I hated everything about them so we never did again. They made her behavior change (only thing she has ever had that even hinted she may attempt to be protective over it, though she would still give it up readily, you could tell she wasn't happy about it), it made the entire house smell like dirty feet, and she didn't seem to feel well after (probably in part to being a POWER chewer and them not lasting her nearly as long as they would other dogs).

what we give her instead, even though we still have to keep an eye out and make sure she doesn't ingest it too quickly, are tendons (We call them beef sticks because they look like large strips of beef jerky). They soften as she chews like the rawhides do, but they break down in the tummies better. Instead of smelling like dirty feet, they just make the house smell like campfire lol.

Will continue hoping for the best for Miss Lola!
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07/11/2012 10:33 AM  

Glad to hear the vet has put your mind at ease  - really knocks the wind out of you when you suspect the worse!


Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx
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07/11/2012 10:33 AM  

Double post, sorreee

May as well use it to say some chews have absolutely crazy additives and preservatives in them, even the supposedly natural ones.  Keely wont touch pig ears (no wonder ) or anything that smells strong - she tries to roll on them   But she did show a lot of interest in a pig in a neighbouring field whilst at the training on sunday, maybe she fancied her pig ears a little bit fresher


Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx
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07/11/2012 11:25 AM  

Epilepsy is more common than he believes.

I know several GSPs who have it.

To rule out a disorder simply b/c he has never known a GSP to come down with it is reckless.

I posted about vestibular syndrome not too long ago.





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Lola GirlUser is Offline
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07/11/2012 11:35 AM  
Thanks for the info. We are still doing research and staying more alert to see if we notice any changes in her behavior.

Our vet had said he never had treated a GSP with the disorder himself,. The symptoms Lola was having sounded like a tremor to him, and he said he had seen those in boxers a lot.We haven't been able to catch it on video so show him, so he is going off our observations.

We usually give her Dentley's rawhides from Petsmart, her and our other pup love those. But i had bought another brand from SAM's bc they go through them so quickly, and i think they were lower quality that the ones we ususally buy them.

The hides may not have had anything to do with it. It was just the only thing that was different in her diet, etc.
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07/11/2012 1:55 PM  
In the beginning when Windsor was our only dog I was giving him rawhides until my husband told me not to. Then I went to pigs ears - those were gross. He never shook but his skin would turn so pink and he'd be all itchy - I had no idea all the yummy treats I gave him was doing him harm. Windsor is black and white and his belly is all white so you could see it easily. As soon as I put him on grain free, no more pink or itchies. Maybe she could be having a reaction to grain fillers? Also Windsor was getting yeast infections in his ears all the time - grain free diet fixed that. He gets them once in a great while but it seems he only gets them when it's ongoing hot and humid out. Maybe she could have the start of an inner ear infection? I wipe out Windsors ears 2 - 3x a week now just to make sure. For treats I give them grain free biscuits and they chew on antlers.
Max2User is Offline
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07/12/2012 3:50 AM  
Max has epilepsy & he does OK. Though the seizures are upsetting .

Chris
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07/12/2012 9:45 AM  
I stumbled upon your video today while watching GSP videos. I WAS just about to share it with you but I was waiting for the actual bobbing when I thought...well, that actually looks like Luna. And, then you started talking lol so I'm glad I didn't share it.

Then I got curious and started watching other tremor videos and they do seem much more extreme. I still hope it is nothing serious and maybe just a puppy twitch fro stimulation. If it is anything, I hope it is something that can controlled easily. She is such a cutie pie and has so many of the same mannerisms as Bella...I enjoyed watching her play with her toys.
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