Texas Belle
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| 02/01/2012 6:07 PM |
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I too obey the leash laws because it is bad dog owners that generally cause issues and I try to set a good example as a dog owner. It is a real shame, but every time some irresponsible owner and dog causes a problem it just gives fuel to the animal rights activists who are slowly chipping away at the rights of responsible pet owners. We have been fighting some really awful anti-pet legislation in TX that I want to see defeated, but it is a long hard fight because of bad pet owners that have lent allot of fuel to the other side.
The other issue that you face if you let your dog off leash in a leash required area and something does happy, you can be held legally responsible, your dogs can be taken away, and you may not be able to get them back and even if you do it can cost you allot of money. Just not worth the risk. This is one of the reasons I pay to belong to a Hunt Club. I can go out there and work my dogs off leash with no issues. It is getting harder and harder to find public land that allows dogs off leash. And this is why I go at least once a year to CO as the public land where hike does not have leash restrictions. You have to stay away from the National Parks as all National Parks have leash restrictions. |
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Smylinacha
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| 02/01/2012 6:46 PM |
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| I have to find one of those clubs in CT I can join |
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pixie bee
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| 02/02/2012 4:52 AM |
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I know what happened with my dog was wrong. I had no control at that time.
Usually I do and I felt confident,but dogs being dogs,well, with no way to reenforce the command I scared the beegeebeez out of someone.
I am of the frame of mind that he was looking for trouble, but that doesn't excuse what happened.
What bothers me about most off leash dog walkers is that they don't take responsibility and get angry at you for getting angry at them.
Having 6 dogs run free out of sight in an on leash area is irresponsible.
When we walk in a NJ preserve,one dog at a time, off leash the dog is not allowed more than around 30' distance b/c distance erodes control.
I too have been told - don't worry - he's friendly.
I believe this to be true,most of the time, but I still unhook my dog or drop the leash. My dog needs to feel that he can flee.
Walking with a large stick will help keep loose dogs away. For those of you who walk in park like/wooded areas.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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Legallyblonde
Otsego MI
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| 02/02/2012 6:32 AM |
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| Try skijoring on a public trail that has signs posted everywhere dogs must be on leash and running in to idiots with out of control dogs off leash......now THAT irritates the crap out of me. It's especially stupid with all the snowmobiles on the trail too. Grrrrr...... |
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tcross
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| 02/02/2012 9:20 AM |
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| just my opinion but... if this guy was affraid/insecure of his dogs actions with other dogs/people and doesn't feel he is able to contro him... why did he ever think about getting a pit?? |
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pixie bee
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| 02/02/2012 10:44 AM |
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UGH!!
Just got back from a walk and spoke to the lady who lives above me -
according to her - when this dog was a about 7 months old - it killed her chiauaua- one shake.
Now I see the owner's emotional state more clearly. He wasn't worried about my dog hurting his - he was worried that his dog would kill mine.
Why the heck was he standing there watching us - he needs to be avoiding at all costs - that is no way to socialize an aggressive dog.JMO.
Now I have mixed emotions - don't ya just hate mixed emotions?
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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Texas Belle
Austin, TX
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| 02/02/2012 11:06 AM |
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| Just glad Haiko was not hurt. |
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gsp-fan
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| 02/02/2012 11:39 AM |
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| Maybe he is trying to fix the dogs behavior and that is why he stood there to show the dog all is ok. I do believe you can change an aggressive dog. The best example is the dogs that Michael Vick had. Quite a few of those dogs are leading happy and productive lives now and Lord knows look what they lived through. |
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ljburkh
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| 02/02/2012 12:26 PM |
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| Well, I'm a scofflaw too. I've found an open field, within the city, that has been set aside as a natural area and will never be developed. We encounter dogs there occaisionally and have never had a problem, even with the so called aggressive breeds. A couple times a week, another GSP joins in and they both have a great time with the frisbee or whatever. The only problems I've ever had were when my dogs were on leash and encountered another that was not. Reading through the thread, I see that maybe if I had unleashed my dogs it may have had a better result, as it was I kept him leashed and it cost me $500 at the vet. I still use the leash when walking the older dogs in the city, but I let the pup run free whenever we go to the nature area. |
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weerubbertummy
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| 02/02/2012 1:00 PM |
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| Well, i'm glad there was no altercation between the dogs. It does seem in hindsight that he maybe is (misguidedly) trying to desensitize the dog. Maybe a longshot, but for the sake of peace(and future doggy-freedom) would it be worth you maybe approaching him (without your dogs) to explain your side, and that you were under the impression that his dog was friendly? Maybe if you feign ignorance he may let the barriers down, then you could perhaps make some suggestions with regards to his approach to "training" his dog. Good luck, it's really annoying when you have to sacrifice a good walking area because of someone else's behaviour. |
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weerubbertummy
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| 02/02/2012 1:03 PM |
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Meant to add also, in his defence, is he maybe utilising the only area he deems as being suitable for walking his dog because he assumes that no off-leash dog will approach, because of the leash law?
I can see more and more leash restrictions becoming commonplace over here, it's so depressing! |
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pixie bee
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| 02/02/2012 2:24 PM |
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Well,
it turns out the dog was rescued from a shelter, he was found wondering in the streets of East NY and thought to be a throw-out from a fighting ring.
I don't get it - this is a very dog populated community - why would he bring in a dog with this history?Why would a shelter release a dog whos temperment is questionable - well not questionable anymore.
I was going to approach him yesterday then found out he is threatening all the dog walkers to call the police if he sees their do off leash.
No one is taking him on a serios note. Dogs were off leash today and having fun - but not mine, not until tomorrow anyway - tritronics says my remote should be delivered today.
I do feel bad b/c I was on a friendly basis with him.
I still don't believe this dog had ill intentions. Unless he is the silent type. Some dogs are OK at the initial greet then turn aggressive.
Anyway - life goes on.
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Splat
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| 02/02/2012 2:57 PM |
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I have been reading this thread and haven't really know what to say... I am glad the dogs weren't hurt... leash laws are so touchy... I just wish there were more areas without leash laws that also had only nice dogs use them...
I think the best thing is to just move on, like you say life goes on...so no sense dreading on it... |
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Max2
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| 02/03/2012 3:39 AM |
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Pixie bee this obviously is troubling you & having been in a similar situation many yrs ago with my first shorthair I think I can say I know how you feel. Glad there wasn't a lot of monday morning quarterbacks adding to this thread. ( that is annoying forum behavior) Like T/B said thank goodness Haiko wasn't hurt. ( imo) I don't think you can change an aggressive dogs behavior.
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weerubbertummy
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| 02/03/2012 4:32 AM |
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| what's a "monday morning quarterback"? |
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weerubbertummy
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| 02/03/2012 4:37 AM |
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| Errrr, okay, i just looked it up. I'M the monday morning quarterback. Sorry, was only trying to help. Hope it gets resolved for the sake of future walkies anyway x |
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gsp-fan
AZ
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| 02/03/2012 5:44 AM |
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| I do not think that comment was directed at you weerubbertummy so you have nothing to be sorry for. This forum is quite a bit different than others because you do not have the snipping but in IMO when people are slapped for posting their own thoughts/beliefs/feelings on a topic it has a way of pushing people away from the forum. So it has been fun. |
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everbell
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| 02/03/2012 6:30 AM |
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One of the reasons we are moving to the country (well, technically a village within the city limits, but anyhow ...) is that people are MUCH more relaxed around dogs. Where we are now, even with the dogs on-leash, people look at our dogs and cross the road. We've been introducing the dogs to our new neighbourhood, and it's such a refreshing change to have people walk up to you and want to meet your dogs and introduce their's. (Only 5 more weeks to moving day!) |
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pixie bee
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| 02/03/2012 7:03 AM |
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If business didn't hold us to the city we would be up in the country.
Congratualtions on the move.
Try and keep your sanity through the process.
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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everbell
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| 02/03/2012 9:16 AM |
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Posted By pixie bee on 02/03/2012 7:03 AM
Congratualtions on the move.
Try and keep your sanity through the process.
Thanks ... the hardest part so far was selling our house. Raz would freak out when we would come back after showings and she could smell the intruders everywhere (and we weren't reacting appropriately!). 
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