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High5Hanna User is Offline

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01/27/2012 7:34 PM
Hi all, Hanna is my new female 11 week old GSP. I had another female for 14 years who would not stop whinning whenever I had her chained up and I would leave her sight. Or If I was talking with someone while she was on lead.it was worse. In areas I worked outside where she could be off lead she would just come and go there was not a problem. But in some gated communities there are strict leash laws. her whinining and yelping were very loud . It got to the point I could not bring her to work with me or I was constantly having to move her lead to where I was working. So With Princess Hanna things are going to be different. Shes got sit down well and "Look at me " as long as there is fresh chicken at My finger tips. Were working on Lay down . She isn't getting "shake" which I find rather odd. maybe its too frivilous. Today I had her at work with me. I put up two eight paneled exersize pens with her airline crate she travels in the truck with inside along with balls and bully sticks. She whined a lot and then would settle. As she settled for a bit I would say good girl and give her a treat. Then when I left she started the whining again. Finnally she went in her crate and slept. ((((((I need ANY suggestions on how I'm doing or not doing so far )))))))) Just help in general. I am ingnoring the whining that amps up into the forlorn howl as much as possible. I turn my back and that does nothing to stop her. Having her on a lead is impossible Shes always getting wrapped around twigs and trees and stones. I did hook her up to my belt one day and had her walk with me as I wheelbarrowed mulch around . The home owners were not there. I'm going to begin working on heel soon. Her next puppy class Is this Sunday. I think shes a VERY smart girl. Shes already pottly trained .to go in ground cover. I have been with her practically 24/7 since Jan11. except to leave her in her crate while I work at home or in the truck while I shop/ She sleeps then . my appologies for the lenght. For High5Hanna

Splat

Illinois (Northern)

MH
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01/28/2012 6:17 AM
I think you are doing good... I know you always want to reward good behavior but when I put mine in the crate and then they would stop whining and settle I didn't disturb them by giving them a reward...the most important thing is to not encourage them to get separation anxiety...which means when you let them out of the crate do not talk all baby talk to them and get them all excited and overly petting them...ignore them for about 10 minutes...what I do when I let mine out is I bring them outside to go potty right away but all I say in a calm voice is "go, go potty" As for not whining when on the lead, I think exposure...and most importantly letting the dog learn certain rules and behaviors and you being a good leader...some people take the whole alpha thing the wrong way and think it means being hard and strict on a dog, but a dog just wants a confident leader... your profile pic is adorable!

Texas Belle User is Offline

Austin, TX

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01/28/2012 7:46 AM
Once she settles down in the crate you need to start extending the amount time before you go and reward her. Let her stay for 15 minutes and see how she does. If she acts up though you must wait until she is quiet to get her out. I would also use letting her out as the reward and not food. Don't say anything, just quietly let her out as splat suggested. Also, I make mine sit and wait to be released out of the crate. That is easy to accomplish, just slam the door to the crate in there face if they attempt to get out before you give your release word. Continue increasing the amount of time in the crate with you at home, but after you get to say 30 minutes try leaving the house for a short period and coming back. Then extend the time you are gone. You should be able to leave her in the crate for an extended period with you out of the house with no issues. Crate training is second only to the recall in a must have training protocol. Remember if the dog go to the vet for any work where they must be there for a day or more, they will be in a crate at the vet, so if they are comfortable in the crate then they will be more relaxed at the vet too.

Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna) Yellow Rose GSPs "A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato

pixie bee

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01/28/2012 8:53 AM
Why does she require a reward for being quiet in the crate? My opinion - you're causing her to get rowdy again.

"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle

Smylinacha User is Offline

Connecticut

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01/28/2012 2:14 PM
Windsor was a whiner and a howler. Velvet is our "singer". Get another dog and problem solved! Velvet keeps Windsor company so no more whining. Velvet still sings at supper or breakfast. But if you can't get another dog, I agree with the crate training but we never rewarded Windsor for being in his crate. We started off with certain time intervals and he got used to it. He also whined when not in the crate and it's really hard to do but if you ignore a whining dog, it will eventually stop. DROVE ME NUTS but you can't give a dog who is whining attention. Ours only get treats when we play go find, sit, stay, paw, hug - the little jobs to keep their minds busy when inside. Reward outside is playing ball, snowball fights, wrestling. I'm no expert at training but my husband who has had gsps all his life taught me that I can't reward them with food treats or attention if they are doing something I don't like (whining, nudging me, drooling on my laptop As for the leash, your pup will get used to it. Velvet heels excellent and we got her at 6 years old, wild, no training. Windsor still tugs a bit but he's much better than he was. Consistency and patience - believe me - I'm learning!

High5Hanna User is Offline

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01/28/2012 8:03 PM
Thank you all for your responses. Pixie Bee I was wondering the same thing. I have been reading the Book the Puppy Whisperer and he is rather heavy on treating. He recomends rewarding the good behavior by tossing in a treat. Its not working right now. The trainer I have for Puppy class clicker traines. I always thought they were silly. Not any more , They really let the dog know exactly when they are doing what you want. I'm impressed. ~Back to the crate I think the rewarding is a time issue Like Splat and T Belle said wait a while and don't disturb . At this age she tend to sleep real soon after shes put in the crate. Maybe when I have to wake her , reward her by a calm good girl. Ill try to keep things a bit lower key taking her out of the crate or pen. I did take her out of the pen when she got real vocal yesterday . But she had to go . So that she didn't go in the larger area pen even though It was in the woods was great. I put her right back in after wards. Smylinacha, My last GSP was a singer also. She had a whistle whine I called it and it was usually when I was having dinner as well. I would love to have another one . Just have to see how things go. Work wise I could just let them stay at home outside together. Inside is a different problem. My living space is small for only one dog max. My truck is small as well. Today Hanna surprised me with a paw shake. She did it several times. Guess she had to sleep on it . LOL! Recall and heeling are going to have to be my main focus and stop the jumping and biteing . Its hard to be consistant when I like to play with her . Geeze she has already moved into my bed the last couple of nights. Got to get her back in the crate . She whines just for a short time when crated at night and if I put her in while Im in the house . Its the exersize pen that has her whinning more. I have put her in the crate thats in the pen once when she got too vocal . Then brought her out after a bit. I have yet to leave the house for an hour or two with her in the crate Like T Belle recomended . I guess it is "I" that has the separation angziety! I LOVE GSP's!!!!!!!!!

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