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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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knightfarms Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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| 01/19/2012 2:31 PM |
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I appreciate everyone's input, I'll take it for what it's worth, filter it how I want, and go with it. No sense in getting fussy. Let's celebrate that my husband got bitten by the "NEED multiple GSPs" bug! |
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He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. -Unknown |
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Splat Illinois (Northern)
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| 01/19/2012 2:42 PM |
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I think you can find the color you are looking for and still get the right temperament, confirmation ect... you just have to find the right breeder and when you find that color really look into what went into breeding that litter and what the breeder was trying to get out of it so then you know if that matches what you want... |
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knightfarms Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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| 01/19/2012 2:49 PM |
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Didn't say I was seeing black dogs at AKC shows, though they are campaigned in UKC and in the International Championship ring. And are being pushed to be included in the AKC standard for confirmation from my understanding. They can field trial and do obedience work without penalty, but can't earn the AKC DC. I love hearing that a white factor dog is winning in the ring; there aren't that many. I can't wait to post puppy pictures!!!! Don't worry, I'll buy a camera before I get him to capture the cuteness. |
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He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. -Unknown |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 01/19/2012 3:07 PM |
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Sorry, I misunderstood your comment. As for black "being pushed" to be included in the standard, that is done by the parent club, GSPCA, and there was a vote a couple of years ago, but it did not pass (it was closer though than past votes). Since then though it has not been brought up for another vote. I think the folks that had been pushing it were burnt out on the effort. There are not color limitations for shorthairs in the performance events, they just have to be registered in the AKC. As for Dual, that requires a CH (Show Champion) and a FC (Field Champion) to get the DC title. Any dog that achieves this is remarkable. Two of my dogs are out of multiple DCs. I show in UKC and International and I know Moose who has some lovely black GSPs also shows in both venues up in her neck of the woods. In TX we never see any black GSPs anywhere which is sad, but I think it may have to do with the heat down here too. There are just now a couple of solid livers showing up in the show ring in AKC and in Hunt Tests and other performance events. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
"A dog has the soul of a philosopher." - Plato |
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pixie bee
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| 01/19/2012 3:40 PM |
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I posted my thoughts b/c this is how I feel. I didn't imply that what the OP wanted could not be found. example - a breeder and litter are picked. great lines,parents/grandparents are great,litter hits the ground and not the coloration desired. What do you do? Move onto the next litter? example - you pick this same great litter and yes, you have a choice of two. Does this make these two pups the right match for your home? Just some food for thought. |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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vnrose53
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| 01/19/2012 6:00 PM |
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I think the OP will make a sensible decision. Its like buying a house. You have a great location but you hate the kitchen. You love the back yard but its on a busy street. It has a great view but no "double sinks" in the master bath. You just take your time or decide which factors to overlook.
I have a white factor and I hated her looks when I first saw her--I too wanted a patched & roan liver! Now I have both. . .in the future I'll be careful what I wish for! |
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pixie bee
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| 01/20/2012 4:36 AM |
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I like to say - the dog you are supposed to have will always find its way to your home. |
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"Time with my dogs clears my mind, renews my faith, and lets me see the world as it is. My only regret loving dogs as I do, is the misery of their early departure." Robert G. Wehle
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LittleJohn South Central, PA
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| 01/20/2012 5:44 AM |
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Funny, that is not a defense, but a statement and my position. Also funny, how you are so arrogant that you believe I was responding just to you. I was not. That is my position as a breeder, owner, handler, and trainer, period. The OP can do what she wants with the information, I am simply giving my opinion, position and experience. I do not believe anyone said the OP should accept less than what she wants, and last time I checked we lived in a free country where everyone is still allowed to make their own choices and decisions. If you do not like my statement that is your choice, but don't attack me for stating my opinion based on experience. Arrogant? wow...never been accused of that before. You are absolutely right about being a free country...I spent the best years of my life defending this great country. Have a great day. LittleJohn |
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revlistless Illinois
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| 01/20/2012 4:15 PM |
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The BIG question is when are you going to get number 3? LOL It's a slippery slope...carefull. |
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Hummingbird Hill Manor's Adelaide Hummingbird Hill Manor's Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds Hummingbird Hill Manor's Fritz |
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Smylinacha Connecticut
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| 01/20/2012 7:15 PM |
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| I hear that 3 is a good number and evens out the pack - that's what my friend keeps telling me and she has 3 weims. A coworker said he might need to find a home for their 1 yr old Great Dane - I almost volunteered but I just can't right now! |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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knightfarms Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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| 01/21/2012 5:21 AM |
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New puppy, which the kids are thinking is going to be called Zoomer or Aladin (oh dear), will be dog #3: 3-ish year old pit bull 1 year old GSP puppy GSP The only chance that we'll get another puppy is if either of the GSP boys proves himself worthy of being bred, and then maybe I'll take a stud fee pup. We're talkin' years, though! |
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He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. -Unknown |
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