Binni Pittsburgh, PA
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| 01/12/2012 2:16 PM |
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I worked with Binni everyday. No matter what I offer her and no matter what reward treats I give her, she will not stop biting us and jumping on the entire family. And trying to get her in the house in another disaster. She will not come when called. I can use a squeeky toy, offer treats, it just doesn't matter. We have a fenced in yard and I'm not about to chase her around the yard.
We had an English Springer for 13 years and I don't recall having 1/2 the trouble, that Binni is causing.
Love her- but TOTALLY FRUSTRATED  
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sweetpea Northwest England UK
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| 01/12/2012 2:26 PM |
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Sorry to hear of your dilemma. My Harvey is now 6 months and still does it!
He excelled today by ripping my fleece jacket Last week it was my sweatshirt.
He can be as good as gold for most of the day but just goes bonkers sometimes... I hope he will grow out of it.
Im sure somebody else will along soon to offer some advice.
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Binni Pittsburgh, PA
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| 01/12/2012 2:31 PM |
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Binni has ruined more clothing than I can even begin to list out. At times, she is so relaxed, that I forget she is a puppy. It's like a switch goes off inside her and she just goes insane I know she is only a baby. I would just love to know if anyone who is more experienced raising a gsp has a few pointers for me.
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GSPal UK
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| 01/12/2012 2:55 PM |
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Sorry to hear your having troubles.
The most important thing NOT to do is treat or reward her in any way when she does this. If she jumps up at you or anyone, turn your back and completely ignore her - dont talk to her, push her off - nothing. Once she is on the floor then praise her - if she jumps up again ignore etc. You must do this every time she does it even if you're not in the mood whether it be you coming in through the door, jumping up on the table.
As for nipping, its likely she is doing this when she is playing/excited? Pick her up straight away and shut her in another room or outside again dont say anything to her! Let her back in after a minute or 2 when she has calmed. If she does it again - straight back outside! Again its patience but she will get the hang of it.
Puppies HATE being ignored so ignore unwanted behaviour and dont forget to praise the good. 
I really hope this helps - stick to it but its important that you stop this behaviour now when she is at her peak learning stage. Good luck.
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Binni Pittsburgh, PA
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| 01/12/2012 3:02 PM |
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GSPal
Thank you so much for the info. I will continue to work with her. I will NOT give up on her. Everything you are saying makes complete sense to me. Let's see what Binni thinks about it  |
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everbell Kanata, ON
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| 01/12/2012 3:15 PM |
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| The other mistake I did with Bo as a puppy was to sit on the floor to play with him. He always took advantage of this. Hindsight is 20/20. Bo also benefited from naps when he got a little rowdy in the evenings. It does get better. One last thing ... At 4 months the pup might be getting ready to lose some teeth. |
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Joce and Rich Bogart and Shiraz (GSPs) Roxane (RIP: 1995-2009) and Tiger Lily (Cats) The Everbell Adventures |
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Texas Belle Austin, TX
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| 01/12/2012 3:47 PM |
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Quit rewarding her. If she bites or nips, put her in the crate for timeout and leave her until she settles down. Only then you can let her out, but make her sit and stay while you open the door and only when you give a release word can she leave the crate. If she gets wild, put her back in the crate. I would also work on obedience with her some. Also try to get some structure in her day. Do the same thing at the same times and be consistent with commands and corrections across the family. GSPs thrive on structure and consistency. Be careful you are not inadvertently rewarding the bad behavior with attention. As for outside, if she doesn't come when called, quit calling her unless you can reinforce it (and I do not mean chasing her around the yard). She is winning if you can't reinforce the recall. If she doesn't want to come it, then leave her out until she changes her mind. Also start working on the recall with her on leash and do that several times a day. Reward when she comes and if she doesn't come then use the leash or check cord to get her started to you and reward when she does start movement toward you even if you have to give a little tug to get her started. |
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Bev Quarles, the Pointer Sisters (Belle and Halo), the Outlaw GSP (Johnny Ringo) and the little Princess (Fauna)
Yellow Rose GSPs
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unowhoandwhy Middleofnowhere, NH
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| 01/12/2012 5:31 PM |
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| On the recall: You might also want to try running AWAY from her & whooping and hollering like you're having a party. Most dogs can't stand the idea that you're having fun without them and will chase after you to see what they are missing. Good luck! |
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Smylinacha Connecticut
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| 01/12/2012 6:59 PM |
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| velvet is 6 and she does this - she is getting better - just keep ignoring it - turn away, don't look at your pup - totally ignore her. We never had her as a pup so it's trying to teach an older dog new tricks. Today I had to come home from lunch to let the dogs out to do business as mom in law when out for the day. I had to change my clothes before I let them back in as our yard is sinking mud from all the rain we had last night. Glad I changed! Then I had to put the work clothes back on afterward to get back to the office. Velvet is a jumper and not a biter but a kisser. |
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Splat Illinois (Northern)
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| 01/12/2012 7:47 PM |
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| Everyone has mentioned great advice...my take is you are trying to train by only rewarding good behavior...try giving consiquences for bad behavior like ignoring or time out in the crate... |
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Binni Pittsburgh, PA
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| 01/12/2012 8:39 PM |
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Thank you all for your fantastic advice. I appreciate the time that you have taken to help us out! I started using the crate when she had bad behavior. She doesn't like it (cried and whimpered), but did settle down and then she was able to return to "society"
I do try to keep the same routine everyday with her.
I do feel that I was only rewarding good behavior and bad behavior didn't have any concequences.
It's just hard because we are so happy to have a healthy full of life puppy, after my family being so sad, after the loss of our english springer after 13 years, that I wasn't being a very good mom to Binni, by allowing the bad behavior. Also, it's been a long time since we had a puppy!
Once again- all the tips, information and opinions are greatly appreciated.
Now, If I could only figure out how to post of pic of her under my name, that would be great!!!!
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Binni Pittsburgh, PA
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Binni Pittsburgh, PA
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Splat Illinois (Northern)
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| 01/13/2012 5:34 AM |
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yeah it is easy to fall into the spell of cuteness, LOL! |
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Max2 Oneonta NY
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| 01/13/2012 5:41 AM |
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The only thing I might add is " don't give them an inch" & I don't mean this in a bad way. These little characters are very,very good at playing us !  |
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flygirl Muncy, PA
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| 01/13/2012 6:41 AM |
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| When she is biting, put your thumb in her mouth and your hand under her jaw and grab ahold. tell her not biting. She will not like that and will stop the biting. When she starts to jump up put your knee up to block the jump. they don't like that either. |
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everbell Kanata, ON
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| 01/13/2012 8:34 AM |
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| The other trick for jumping is to walk into them since they can't jump on you when you're moving forward. Sounds crazy, but it works. |
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Joce and Rich Bogart and Shiraz (GSPs) Roxane (RIP: 1995-2009) and Tiger Lily (Cats) The Everbell Adventures |
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rebelyell Iowa
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| 01/13/2012 10:03 PM |
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The good news is...almost all puppies outgrow this phase around 6-8 months. I never thought my last GSP was going to, but she did (thankfully). It was mentioned before about the teething at 4 months. I agree with this, as this is the time my pup was at her worst biting, then I began to find small teeth. Make sure your puppy has something to chew on at all times when teething. I used an antler or a bully stick. When my puppy started biting us, I always said "no bite" then redirected her to chew on a toy or bully stick. When she started chewing on her toy/stick, then I would praise her up! After a couple weeks, she realized it was more fun to bite/chew on the toy than on us. A lot of times, this behavior is also your puppies way to initiate a play session. Hang in there, as it will one day get better |
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Jolene -- Rebel (GSP 2010) -- Shila (GSP 1988-2006 17 1/2 wonderful yrs ) "There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face." -Ben Williams
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