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12/14/2011 12:17 PM  
Mine get breakfast before I eat but on school days the kids are making their ceareal the same time the I am making the dogs...but on weekends or in the summer the kids are still sleeping so the dogs eat first...I am also giving mine a lunch even though they are older cuz I am hoping it helps Striker gain weight...my youngest feeds lunch to the dogs when he gets home from school...then the dogs eat dinner at 6pm which is most likely after we have eaten dinner and my oldest son feeeds them this meal...

When we sit at the table for meals the dogs are not allowed in and they know this...


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12/14/2011 1:04 PM  
Our guys eat at 4:30 am, 4:00 pm, and 7pm. (They are 7 and 4.5.) We like to feed them this way so that they never have overfull bellies. It works for us.

As you can probably guess, we they get fed before our breakfast and dinner.

Joce and Rich
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12/14/2011 1:14 PM  
Thanks for the feedback. I just want to do everything right for her and for us although Kintra worked out lovely as she was. I know how important it is to set boundaries as early as possible as it makes life easier and more comfortable for us and the dog. I think i feel a little out of my depth because we got her at 7 weeks and we got Kintra at 8 weeks. I know it wouldnt seem like a huge difference to non-doggy people but it's probably a long time for a puppydom and we want to do things properly. We're just so happy after such a sad time and really excited about watching her grow and learn.


Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx
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12/14/2011 5:58 PM  
I free feed mine, so they eat when they are hungry. They are not allowed in the dining room when I eat at the table (which is rarely) and aren't allowed to be when I eat somewhere else in the house.

They are also allowed on the furniture, and even sleep under covers on my bed (I'm single at the moment & so there's plenty of room and it's a lot warmer!), BUT, they don't get up on the bed till I invite them and when I tell them to get off, they get off.

Only once have I had an issue with Daniel not wanting to stay off when I told him to, but he lost his bedroom privileges for a week and has never hesitated to get off and stay off since then.

Good luck with your adorable new baby!

Daniel Yankee Flyer - 8/2002
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12/14/2011 8:02 PM  

Wee-you seem to have a head full of sense, just use your best instincts!  Try not to get caught up in worrying about not making ANY mistakes.  Enjoy your new pup and your life with her with the knowlege that you are doing your absolute best for her!


Julie
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12/15/2011 6:09 AM  
I agree with Julie above. If only every dog owner was half this concerned, we'd have a lot more balanced dogs in the world.

It's just like with kids ... you do the best you can, you make mistakes, but you stay involved, interested and dedicated, and you'll raise a good dog.

Joce and Rich
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12/15/2011 6:32 AM  
Juliej and Everbell - thanks for that. i really need to chill out and just enjoy her, i'm sure she'll pick up on me worrying and obsessing and that wont help either of us.

Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx
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12/15/2011 7:46 AM  

Bev - Hogan does exactly the same picture as in the photo.

Wee - it's all down to how YOU want YOUR dogs to behave. I am fairly relaxed with mine now although originally with Hogan I was very strict. They are allowed on my bed in the evening if I was watching TV but overnight they both sleep in separate cages. The only time Rosa has slept overnight in the bed was when she was poorly.

They are also both allowed on the sofa, providing there is space, and god forbid them if they jump over anyone/on anyone unless they are invited. This is important - they are allowed lots of snuggles but ONLY if they are invited. They do not jump up on their own accord if someone is already sat on the sofa. That said if no-one is on the sofa it is fair game! I allow this, even though people say 'don't let them on the sofa, sofa's are for people - you don't want them thinking they are equal to you'

Well sorry I don't agree with this. I establish my role as pack leader in other ways - I provide food for them on my terms, I train them.

There has to be a certain amount of dominance and this is part of the dogs character. Rosa is dominant over Hogan, and I am dominant over both of them. This is the pack dynamic.

That said, I listened when I shouldn’t have, and did the ‘rolling over’ technique when Hogan was a puppy. It didn’t work and just landed up with him resenting me touching his legs as he thought I was going to roll him over.

In my opinion, with most GSP’s, all you need to do to maintain your role as pack leader, is be calm and consistent (a pack leader never loses their cool) – provide the food and sleeping arrangements, lots of training and lots of boundaries which are upheld.

My dogs also free-feed so have no set mealtimes, and are loose when we eat. However, if a guest is in the house, they stay in their cages, purely out of courtesy to the guest, who might not like dogs wandering round when they are eating.

To cut and story short, when you come to my house, you find two affectionate and (moderately!) well behaved GSP’s with respect for their humans.

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12/15/2011 9:25 AM  
Kintra was usually left loose when we had visitors, the only problem being jumping up at certain people - a habit we had difficulty fully breaking because from 9 weeks old she went to work with my other half and some people probably encouraged her to jump up so much as a pup, but others didnt - it was a lack of consistency and not her fault so i tried not to be too hard on her for it, i just discouraged it and tried to ignore her if she jumped on me. couldnt bring myself to give her into trouble for something other people encouraged. Nothing worse than mixed messages, esp for a sensitive and bright dog.
The only time she took advantage of being allowed on the sofa (and i'm sure it was more to do with excitement) was when she came running in from outside and dived on the sofa at full speed when my mother was sitting on it. Well, my mum's got a prosthetic arm so it hurt Kintra more than it hurt her. Mum was just glad she didnt spill her rum and coke ;)

Miss you forever Kintra baby xxx
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